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said, we're going to march to the capitol, and sent them there anyway. he knew you were at the capitol, that lawmakers were at the capitol. what do you make of that? >> well, i -- well, the president's words were reckless. and his actions were reckless. the president's words that day at the rally endangered me and my family and everyone at the capitol building. >> when did you learn that the rioters had breached the capitol? >> when elizabeth macdonough, the parliamentarian of the senate, turned around in her chair and said, "rioters have breached the first floor of the cap tom." and then my secret service agent, maximilian, who's a great american, came on the house floor and said, "mr. vice president, we gotta go." >> you saw him walking right toward you?

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