that's why it's important to help small businesses in the way that the sba announced yesterday, why it's important for us at usda to work hard to make sure that folks in rural america know where the jobs are that are available. that's why we're working with the department of labor and a unique partnership to get the field offices at usg arkusda toe department of labor about jobs. we're going to look for ways to continue to spur manufacturing. if we can become a country that builds, creates, innovates, we can export to the rest of the world and we can create wealth. it's an untold story, pat. we're seeing record exports, a $42 billion surplus of agriculture. folks may have debt, but we've got soybeans. the last time i checked, they can't eat debentures but can soybeans. >> rick perry of texas is in the state of iowa right now. he was governor. you served as governor of iowa. what do you know about him? what do you think about him as a