and make $250,000. those people are so offensive to me. warren buffet is so offensive to me. if they want to pay more taxes, you know what? just pay the bush tax rate of 35%. stop weiaseling around with you tax law. you can't have it both ways. >> they have flotillas of tax lawyers. >> they do. if you're going to pay an 18% tax rate, don't whine about other people paying a 35% tax rate who can't afford your lawyers and your accountants. this is just hypocrisy, tina. what is the word you used for roger? i think that guy is a -- >> fiend. >> he is a fiend. except he is a real fiend. >> no, i think his point was more broad. >> it was more broad. he wants everybody else to pay more tax. >> it was a smug little aria. >> there is a good case. you can make an honest case for more progress with the tax code but to do it in that kind of self-righteous, self-congratulatory chest beating way is a little unattractive coming from a