quote from the president. he said despite the enormous challenges that remain in afghanist afghanistan, we pushed the taliban out of strongholds and security forces are growing stronger and the afghan people have a new chance to forge their own future. is he right or is it too rosy? what do you think? >> richard, we are in such a dilemma, it's beyond belief. 16,000 kill and wounded and $10 billion a month. 2/3 of the american people do not want to continue in engagement in afghanistan. having said that, i have been in and out since the start of the operation. things are better now than the chaotic and cruel place that we saw in the early years. the problem is, what's going to happen? we have 150,000 nato troops on the ground. by next summer, we take out 30,000 american troops. we have an afghan army.