and uncle newt who puts his fingers up and making the three very, very smart points, which you're right about. he is a 19th century figure. but politics, presidential politics, and certainly governing is about more than talking. and we have a record that gingrich talks well sometimes and has just not governed well. >> jeff? >> what i'm suggesting here is something that a very smart pollster mentioned to me a year ago. when i asked her who called -- and i was polling nationally. she said i think at the end of the day or whatever cliche i put in her mouth, the republicans are looking for a problem-solver. and you've seen a whole bunch of people who presented themselves as that have fallen by the wayside, pawlenty, mitch daniels, perry was supposed to be that guy. and if the republican base decides that the hollywood movie has had its run, maybe we want