concluded there was no further need to investigate. and at that point, should they have shut it down? they felt that they had to report it at least to clapper. but what is very confusing here is that there was an fbi agent, the one who knew kelley who had first launched this thing who officials -- law enforcement officials say acted very inappropriately and was very quickly taken off of this investigation because he had a conflict of interest because he had a friendship with kelley. and it was he who then went to -- he knew people in the house republican caucus. he went to congressman reichert's staff who then report it had to eric cantor. at that point on october 31st, it was now in the political sphere. so the fbi was no longer just reporting up the chain of command to their officials and to clapper. >> we've got a lot of people rolling their eyes around this table. richard haass, first of all, i don't understand this investigation. so if i know somebody in the fbi, i can get the fbi cyber