through the shutdown. we continue to come out and press members of congress to really get behind an immigration reform bill that really honors the dignity of our people, and that means that it would have to include a pathway to citizenship for the 11 million. >> okay, but here's the problem. i'm sorry to cut you off, but here's the problem. that argument, which i find very persuasive, why is that going to be persuasive to members of the house republican caucus who are looking at the same political incentives marco rubio is? >> so, i mean, you have members who have come out for citizenship. we have the votes that we need. and if it were not for what we call the hasser excuse, we would have a vote on either the senate bill or a modified version, of the senate bill which is hr-15 right now. that's the senate bill, plus bipartisan policy that was voted out of committee in the house that addresses the border security issue. so you know, i think we have people like representative denham coming out in support for this bill. we have other folks. we now have 29 house republicans