i'm an august steinian. he was one-of-a-kind. >> so many great points that bob brought up. your reaction when you heard the news and what was your reaction when you first heard that speech that he gave to the dnc? did you know at the time it was going to be so pivotal and monumental? >> you did when you heard it. i was a delegate to the pennsylvania delegation and it was an incredible speech. i was the district attorney at the time. it was a great statement of democratic ideals and the progressive ideals of our party. the governor not only spoke about those ideal, but governed with them and showed that progressive politics could be successful. could work. he was a great governor of new york. he had the courage of his convictions. he was against the death penalty 25 years ago when it was