>> exposing and driving this crisis from the very beginning. driving it. that audio was obtained by an online outfit called the undercurrent, published by the nation. we contacted mr. hagstaf this evening to ask if he talked about it. what we do know just from watching the politics as they play out is that their push to privatize the va is working right now. i mean it used to be a fringe idea that the politician might float, but then drop. all the leading republican hopefuls for president who have been asked about it have so far all jumped on board, lots of them all at once. part of the reason for the surprise mainstream of this formerly fringe idea is that now it is supported by this much larger and much richer campaign.