shape. she needs a spring training version of a presidential primary. she has to have -- >> i actually was thinking that as i was watching her sitting around sort of that stiff, willie, just the opposite of what you see in new hampshire when you see chris christie people jabbing at him. like i said after last week in the carly fiorina interview where mika and carly went at it i said you know what if you're good, and she is that actually is good for a candidate if somebody jabs and you can jab back. hillary looks in these early stages and it's really early, like she's shadow boxing. >> it's so controlled. >> she really needs a strong competitor to sharpen her up. >> town hall or two wouldn't hurt. >> i think she'll get martin o'malley, might get jim webb. she'll get a couple people to sharpener will sharpen her up. i think the van trip purely