so began life in the national spotlight for hillary rodham clinton or the woman we know as hillary. joining me now is terry o'neil who volunteered for hillary's 2008 presidential campaign. it's something to go back and look at that footage. familiarly just starting in arkansas, the first interview where she says, okay, look, i guess if you don't like rodham, i will call myself hillary rodham clinton, if that will make you happy. >> you know, pick your battles. you pick your battles. i was just recently at the feminist majority young feminist leader convention and there was a young african woman talking to them. and they said, you will go in the public sphere, and you will attacked.