coroner, everybody investigating this, came to the conclusion that these two were already dead, if you will before the last 15 shots were fired. how might that have played into the case if, indeed, that's the truth. >> that's a significant factor because you're talking about that -- and that's why the judge did not find that causation by the state was proved because this officer and the reason why he's the one on trial here for voluntary manslaughter it was his conduct at the very end. he climbed on top of the roof of the car and then started -- the hood of the car and started firing those additional shots. the judge wanted evidence to prove that those were the shots that caused their death because when you have so many other officers involved and so many other shots fired, but this one officer is on trial for manslaughter, you have to prove the elements of the crime against this one officer. those other officers aren't there. and so then that's why he made the decision the causation proving that this officer is responsible for those fatal