you because -- >> i to havedo have a certain s skills. >> what do you make of this? it's not just -- i'm not sure donald trump is too capable of covering up much of anything. he can't resist the impulse to live out loud. i wonder if this means there's someone on the white house staff in serious legal jeopardy. >> i think there probably is. here's what we know. we know the president had at least on three occasion s soug out the company of jim comey for the purposes of trying to -- >> winning him over. >> winning him over and trying to get him to back down on the investigation. so that seems to be an endeavoring to cover up or at least obstruct that investigation. and there are probably staff that in ways witting and not aided that. so it is -- but it's not -- sometimes people say, i remember roger stone last week said they should have an -- this would be great if they had a special counsel because then you put the investigation goes into a box. you knows, i understand this, we would use this in the different