impulsive and speaking reactively, he tends to tell the truth. it's a grim truth that he tells because it reflects what he actually believes. and when he is, quote, reflective, or when he takes time to think about what he's going to say, he always lies. >> let that sink in. michelle, i want to ask you something. but senator shahin's office told us to get her on. that's the situation. so the whole panel stays with me. let me give context to what is about to be a newsworthy interview. there is a push to find out what trump and putin talked about in private. the russians have their own information. >> i think whatever mr. trump said in that meeting with mr. putin is now memorialized on russian tape and it will be used as necessary by mr. putin against mr. trump. >> kremlin even claims there was