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david was answering, we had on your screen laura cooper of the defense department, who has arrived on the hill to testify. glenn, there is one argument that the white house is making about bill taylor's testimony, saying that, for the most part, it's hearsay, so you can't take he said is information he gleaned from conversations with other diplomats who spoke to the president. is the white house making a winning argument here? does it not necessarily hurt bill taylor's credibility but hurt the argument that the this when bill didn't actually hear that from the president himself? >> it's a specious argument which has surface appeal, but when you dig down underneath it, it's nonsense. here's why. >> you'll have to define specious. >> specious is, you know, it sounds good, but it ain't good. that's specious. >> ah! there you go. now you're talking to us. >> here's why. number one, hearsay is not admissible in a court of law. there are about a thousand

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