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time. we'll have a lot of incentive to cooperate with prosecutors. >> malcolm, i have one more question for you. who is paying for all of this? when you look at all the gear that they had, when you think about who is actually at the center of power here, who is paying for all of that? >> well, a lot of these people pay for it themselves. you see them dressed up in body armor, what we call the tactical tuxedo, trying to outdo each other in a combat fashion show. this is what we call those posers. these are guys who are live action role play. but you have to understand, there were many groups that sent the oath keepers money. the oath keepers were collecting tens of thousands of dollars. they were getting donations everywhere. there are other groups out there like, you know, code of vets, another group affiliated with general michael flynn, who gave them $100,000 last year, the fake election lawyer sidney powell, she gave them $10,000.