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of the olympics. so i think there's a pretty decent chance we get through february 20th, at least, without any sort of intervention. the real question is what happens next. quite honestly, jose, it's not -- the issue isn't timed for diplomacy to work because there's no mystery about what's being offered by the west. there's clear limits. the real question is what ultimately mr. putin is willing to accept. >> if he's willing to take a pause so my friend can hold his olympic games without any kind of conflict or focus being taken away from that, but it's -- it's kind of odd, right, richard, to think of a time when we're all waiting to see what putin may or may not do? >> there's certain things in history or certain long pauses in the lead-up to world war ii, indeed people talking about it being a phony war at certain