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congress, for refusing to testify the committee might be because the justice department might be investigating mark meadows for possible criminal involvement in encouraging the attack on the capitol, as cassidy hutchinson's testimony indicates. leading off our discussion tonight, stuart stevens, veteran republican presidential campaigns. he is author of, it was all a lie. how the republican party became donald trump. also with, us jeanne robertson, social editor and poster prize-winning columnist. he's an msnbc political analyst. and eugene, we are in week two of the mccarthy tapes. and we suspect there are more on the way. matt gates out tonight with an enraged attack on kevin mccarthy. and stephen scalise saying they are weak, the state show that they are weak. and, so the disarray is in full bloom in the republican house. >> yeah, lawrence, what is