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is degrading -- >> and what was degrading about? it was it degrading that the flute was played, or who was playing the flute? >> exactly. who are used to determine the united states history. if you want to go down that route, we can play the game. >> we can play the game. i want to go move to hocus pocus really quickly, because we all agree that lizzo is absolutely ridiculous hocus pocus two is out. october is here, that means halloween is around the corner. hocus pocus two has hit the airwaves, and it has a millennial cult fouling. i think that the original in 1993 was a box office bomb back then. some are calling this equal less than magical. the question here is, are some feels better without the sequel, and our people -- 's hocus pocus to really that bad? >> i don't think is that bad. i really don't. i think there's a nostalgia to, it there's halloween, it's in the spirit of halloween. why shouldn't we invite this back? i feel like it's kind of like glitter.