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for decades. >> yeah. >> no doubt. i mean, joe, hearing that, those comments from governor desantis, i was thinking, wow, what if he answered five more questions on this, what would he exactly say? i mean, the thing that -- as much as a lot of -- many republicans think he is their next great hope, and maybe he is in some ways, it wasn't a particularly sophisticated answer. and it was not -- it was very out of whack with what we've just seen happen over the last year. what's true, i mean, the b-9 mika was referencing, a year and a half ago, we had a weekly meeting with the national security team and press team. jake sullivan said, i talked to the president about doing a call with the b-9. others would say, who is the b-9? he'd say, these are the countries on the front lines. it is poland, of course, but it is estonia, latvia, all these countries literally near the border of russia. they are pivotal in our