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mar-a-lago case and the bide case or the pence case. and how hard is it to prov obstruction? >> normally, stephanie, it i very difficult to prov obstruction because what you have to establish is someone's intention and their frame of mind in this case, however, donal trump has made it excessivel easy for jack smith because of the timeline he had repeated notices, and during the stretches after h received notice, that's wher you start to get his intention and it becomes more clear as t what he really wanted to do an what he wanted to avoid. there is an important point to make here, however as we see jack smith movin closer to the obstruction issue, don't confuse first to indic with first to trial. this mar-a-lago case as a case on a federal level is so wel packed and ready to go that we could easily see it go to tria way earlier than fani willis i she ever indites in fulton county it certainly way earlier tha alvin bragg here >> really?