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cohen, but they were not false entries. i was not falsifying business records. these were legal fees. these were retainers. so he's still sticking with the these were legal fees. so it's going to be michael cohen is a liar. so we now know that's the defense. >> colleen, the plaintiff, the liar is a go-to tactic or defense these days it seems because that's what we're seeing in the civil rape and defamation case in new york brought by e. jean carroll and closing arguments are expected next week. trump has so far declined to even appear at this trial. the judge did give him until sunday to change his mind, to perhaps testify, but at this point the defense is saying they're not planning to call any witnesses. what are you watching here? >> well, he went on a vent yesterday, which is not surprising, and that's probably one of the reasons why the judge in the civil rape case said i'm going to give you until sunday because his attorneys are saying one thing, and their client, mr. trump is saying another while