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not -- not say convict trump but just say, let's let the system play out, let's trust the rule of law, let's not attack our court system, let's see whether trump's guilty or not, see what the jury says? >> well, i hope so. i mean it is -- it has been a rough road but i think we are seeing some green shutes and i think we ought to remind ourselves there have been recent surveys that suggest the overwhelming majority of americans think these crimes are serious and disqualifying. we are focused elise stefanick, but recognize how out of the mainstream they are, and also, we're seeing a new willingness on the part of some republicans to go after donald trump. i thought it was interesting that chris christie is doing something this week that nobody did back in 2016. he's going after donald trump, his character, his record, going