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to justify hate. >> the thing is, i mean, i'm not sure that -- you're reading it narrowly and that's very optimistic, but in this case, there wasn't even a harmed person. the woman who had this website company didn't even make wedding websites. the person who allegedly was asking her to make a wedding website, first of all, isn't even gay. is married and said i don't know why i'm involved. so this was like a theoretical maybe in the future i might want to do art. what is to stop the next person who says, well you know what, i make cakes. i'm a baker, because they already ruled in favor of a cake baker who didn't want to bake a cake for a gay couple, and they said making cake is my art. i'm not going to make it for you, or they say my religion says i don't believe in interracial marriage. if a couple wants to be married and one is black and one is white, can't do that either. i don't see how it's narrow because almost anything can be called art. >> i think we're going to see

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