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and, it also brings fully into question all the power comments that the former vice president has made about not having anything to do with any of the actions, activities, or potential illegalities that the former president was involved in. >> and as it turns, out there may well be consequences for these calls, the justice department is already subpoenaed to arizona state lawmakers about trump's fake electorate profit. why have we heard about former governor doocy testifying? >> i think right now, we are actually, mister secretary, hearing whatever it is that jack wants us to hear. we are hearing whatever the doj allows us to hear and nothing else. they are running a very tight ship. they are very few leaks. they are obviously in the throes, heavy throws of this