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own ill-fated presidential run. is ron desantis doomed to suffer the same fate of that former florida governor? >> it is possible. anything is possible. especially in politics nowadays. i will say brown desantis is more [inaudible] then jeb bush was in 2016 in 2015, right? he does have some of the things that trump supporters like about donald trump. that's what he's number one. the problem is that he hasn't connected with them. he hasn't gone after donald trump in the way that he's been able to thread that needle. showing desantis he is the guy and donald trump is not. they don't want someone like jeb bush. they don't want someone, it, seems like will hurd or is a hutchinson's, the spokeswoman to go after donald trump. they are interested in him. when you talk, they're interested. they want to like desantis, they're just having her turnout. they're not giving him [inaudible] >> all, right