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panel for the hour. danny savalas, nbc legal analyst and criminal defensive. journey rick wilson cofounder of the lincoln project and author of running against the devil applied to save america from trump and democrats from themselves. , danielle moodie host of the woke podcasting co-host of the democracy podcast and, katie benner, msnbc contributor and reporter for the new york times. danny, i'll start with you with reporting that we have it charles de oliveira has not yet got attorney in florida. isn't surprising? what should we read into that? that is what will be going down tomorrow now that the superseding indictment is upon us? >> it is strange that in so far it may be indicative that the promise of counsel and that trump may be taking care of his codefendants maybe a little hollow. because if you recall, his first codefendant walt nauta, took an extra month to get