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there's been an interesting development. rolling stone has reported, this is their reporting, that there have been inquiries from jack smith about whether rudy giuliani was drinking. we know this did come up in the january 6th hearings when he was giving the advice to donald trump about stealing the election. how legally might that be relevant? >> drunk advice is drunk advice. and if you're going to take drunk advice, you can't say you relied on the drunk advice to your detriment. i wanted to say one quick thing, and i apologize for hijacking that question. the thing about vivek ramaswami that people need to realize is, he's taking a playbook out of the gop. he's actually as a minority trying to drive a wedge between communities of color. and that's what they do. they try to pit minorities against minorities because they know that if they drive a wedge between communities of color it's easier to co-oft them, to take advantage of the divisiveness that can exist.

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