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the exercise in order to stay in power. is that the way to read it? >> again, after the marathon round that was kevin mccarthy limping into the speaker's office. >> 15 votes. >> and like you called it i think de facto speaker, marjorie taylor greene. these are the people who are actually running the show. mccarthy is just there as a figurehead. someone who wields no power, no influence. he's being held hostage by the crazy maga right extremists who are now part of the insurrectionist llc, the judiciary committee that masquerades around and tries to use the guice of power to justify their witch hunts and mccarthy is going to rubber stamp it. >> you should be a staffer on oversight when you were with the other party. i wonder if there's any real politic at all in -- i mean, none of this would pass the senate. you can do whatever you want, you're just going to muck up the bill, the overall spending bill that's got to go between the house and senate. none of this is actually going to become law. they're not going to defund jack smith. they cannot force fani willis or