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that but then our jobs is processing. >> right. >> so, like, it's therapy. like we're all being put through the same wringer but chris and i get to do our day jobs talking about this stuff and that's a great privilege and i feel that way and to that end part of my day job is also writing this book and doing "ultra" and doing other projects like that. i'm working on "ultra" season 2 right now which is very exciting and what is energizing to me about that is, again, the good guys, like, you think that the bad guys in this are obscure. most of them are other than, you know, coughlin and lindbergh and ford and those guys, most of the bad guys are obscure but the really obscure people are the good guys, are the americans who you know the beleaguered secretary who is working for this minnesota senator who is such a freaking creep. every time she gets paid by the senate she has to hand back half of her salary to him in cash. that's how much power she had in the workplace and yet she went