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that's worth pointing out here too is the iowa democratic caucuses, and they're not happening tonight, the whole dispute with the dnc, it's a big thing. traditionally if you think of the iowa democratic caucuses and the iowa republican caucuses, these are different. the republican caucuses are different. it's the democratic caucuses. you line up in one corner of the room for one candidate. if you don't get 15% in the first vote, they have another round. it's much more complicated on the democratic side. when it comes to the actual voting in the caucus, it's a ballot, you check off a name, you put it in the box. it really is an election at that point. so it's simpler from that standpoint. >> indeed, but you have to be there, and you have to show up to that high school, and you have to sit it out, and it's a fascinating real process that is wonderful to see, thank you, jacob, and thank you, steve, for bringing us those details.

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