but you don't want bill clinton against you in a state whereer he's very popular. >> well that may be -- i'mot sure e plan's right. i'm trying to figure out if he had a plan, margaret you may be right but i would think mayor brown might have come out there for barbara boxer and she's in a tough race and he would have said good things about brown along the way. i guess this is tricky now. >> well, let's be very clear. i think that senator clinton, s is the case with now-secretary state clinton, will probably at some point, be in california. that's just the way the political game is played. and i think she will say good things about all of the democratic candidates. even more importantly, i think president bill clinton will be in california. and probably more than one time. and he, too, will say good things about democratic candidates.rr jerry brown has to be very, very careful. he's so bright, so able, and so combative on every occasion when everybody attacks him, he