out in south carolina, you have to bet to guys with the money. >> especial as ari point happen out when it's an air war in florida and south carolina. >> yeah, it's tv. tv. >> it is tv, as we know. author of jack kennedy. thank you, chris, for joining us. >> any time. >> be sure to catch chris on "hardba "hardball." coming up. rick perry managed to remember the department of energy, that it exists and he wants to kill it during the debates in new hampshire. that is next on "now." [ male announcer ] how about we make a big change