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KGO This Week With George Stephanopoulos July 12, 2024

Two starkly different visions for america. More than 92 million ballots cast in this unprecedented election. We cover it all this morning, with our political team, the latest analysis, the newest polls. Both campaigns are here. Nate silver is here and our legal team and powerhouse round table on what to watch for tuesday night. Announcer this is a special edition of this week. Here now chief anchor, george stephanopoulos. Good morning and welcome to this week. Were in the final hours of what may be the most fraught election of our lifetimes. With two days to go, americans are on edge and engaged. More than 92 million of us have already voted. Thats two thirds of the total votes cast in 2016. When all the votes are counted, its all but certain more than 150 million americans will weigh in for the first time in history. That counting may take time in this election transformed by the pandemic. Were braced for that as well. Everyone watching at home should know its not a sign that anything has gone wrong. Were here to give you the best sense of where things stand, what to watch for tuesday night and we begin with our brand new policies with the Washington Post from the two most critical Battle Grounds in this election. Florida is a toss up with trump at 50 and biden at 48 . Thats down from a 4point lead. In pennsylvania biden 51 to 44. Thats down from a 9point lead in our last poll. Trump spent the day in pennsylvania yesterday. Biden will be there tomorrow. As we head into the final stretch, lets get the latest on whats happening inside the campaigns from jon karl covering trump and mary bruce covering biden. J jon, start us off. The president is in an all out sprint to election day. Hes in michigan, iowa, North Carolina, florida and georgia. Tomorrow another five rallies in four different states. The last in grand rapids, michigan. Thats where he had his last rally in 2016. For a guy who was literally in the hospital with covid19, on oxygen, this is something of a marvel. Theres talk, george, he may do one last rally on election day. He pulled off a massive upset victory four years ago. Hes doing everything he can physically do to do it again. Although this would be a bigger upset. These huge rallies in the face of warnings from Public Health officials. No doubt. Because of that, these rallies are outdoors. Hes drawing people by the thousands, in some cases bone chilling temperatures, facing the threat of getting infected of coronavirus. Its a reflection of how deep his support is. How fur fervent his support is. Yesterday in pennsylvania four different rallies, all packed. At some of these rallies they start chanting we love you to the president. Whats your sense of what the trump team is thinking behind the scenes of what their chances are tuesday . They know its really tough. They acknowledge that winning any of those states that pushed him over the top last time, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, is difficult. They believe they can hold on to all the other states he won and pick off one of those, most likely being pennsylvania. Its got to be pennsylvania. He needs to win in several states where hes down in the polls. Lets go to mary bruce with the Biden Campaign. Pennsylvania is the epicenter this time, mary. It is, george. Bidens team is laser focussed on pennsylvania. Joe biden will be in philadelphia today. Tomorrow hes barn storming pennsylvania. In fact, every member, all four principles, will be fanned out across pennsylvania tomorrow. This state is critical for joe biden. His team sees a path to 270 without it. Its just an allout push to get out the vote in this state, where we may not know final results for several days. That path to 270 without pennsylvania runs through the sunbelt. It does. Joe biden has been spending a lot of time trying to win back the trump states he won in 2016, that biden is hoping to flip. Weve seen him in places like florida, georgia, iowa. Hes been sending his running mate, kamala harris, out to texas and North Carolina. Joe biden is focussed on rebuilding that blue wall. We saw him in michigan, wisconsin. Mary, how would you describe the mood inside the biden camp . Theyre keenly aware of the dynamics four years ago. Theyre truly, truly cautious. There are glimmers of optimism, but theyre not taking anything for granted which is why youll see them campaigning so aggressively right up until the final moments. Mary bruce, thank you. Lets bring in tom llamas along with nate silver from fivethiryeight. Tom, look at the six states weve been keeping a tight focus on all year long. Thats where the campaigns are spending the most money and the most time. Thats right, george. Weve been monitoring these states for months. Michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, North Carolina, arizona and florida. In this column you have the president s margin of victory four years ago. You can see in the first three it was less than a percentage point. In this column we have our polling average from fivethiryeight, joe biden on top in every single one of those six states. Whats changed since the last debate . Some things have changed. Minimal, but there have been changes. Lets talk about where joe biden has increased his lead in the polls. Michigan and wisconsin, part of that blue wall for democrats. In North Carolina and arizona the polls have tightened a bit. Joe biden has come down a little bit, but minimal. In pennsylvania and florida there has been change. Joe biden has come down a point in each state. You mentioned our poll out today, donald trump on top in florida. In pennsylvania joe biden is on top. Republicans always say a lot of the polls were wrong four years ago. Nate silver, whats your forecast . We have trump with a 10 shot and biden with a 90 shot. Things happen fairly often. At the same time you could have a poling error like biden could lose pennsylvania, arizona and michigan. That little extra cushion for people who didnt like clinton and trump, but can tolerate biden might be enough even if there is a polling miss. If you had a polling error like 2012 . Then you could see biden overperform and he might win states like texas. In the hispanicrich states, democrats have sometimes beaten their polls. Its a harder group to get on the phone. There are upside cases for biden and there are cases where he wins in a squeaker. Im sure everyone is concerned about that 10 . You tweeted the other day you spend 90 of your time thinking about the 10 . When you think about that and youre writing the headline on wednesday that trump won, what would be the key factors . It would come down to pennsylvania. As tom said, pennsylvania has not bumped up to a 7 or 8point lead for biden like we see in michigan and wisconsin. Its 5 points. Its not a big early voting state. A lot of votes havent been cast in pennsylvania. Theres some provisions about a naked ballot, a security envelope. That could make things more complicated. You could have the courts involved. You have protests in philadelphia. Theres lots of stuff going on. Maybe a lot of things add up and biden loses pennsylvania. Then he doesnt pull off arizona. He does have other options. North carolina is a state where obama won it in 08. It looked very similar then nationally ment that could be a problem for the gop. Without pennsylvania biden becomes an underdog. Lets look at those options with tom llamas. Lets look at the path to 270. Tom, the clearest path to 270 is joe biden flipping the blue states in the Northern Tier. Thats right, george. This is the map on Election Night four years ago. If joe biden is able to flip that blue wall that collapsed four years ago, look at his electoral totals there. Wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania that puts him over the top at 278. Show what happens if donald trump takes pennsylvania. If donald trump is able to hold pennsylvania and the rest of the states he won four years ago, hes at 280. He stays president. Heres where it gets tricky. If joe biden is able to pick off any of the Southern States look here under the biden number. North carolina he gets to 273. Trump gets North Carolina. If he picks off georgia, 274. If joe biden can pick off florida the largest Battle Ground, 287, he becomes the next president. Tom, nate, thank you. Lets look at the issues of election integrity. I want to bring in our legal lel panel, pierre thomas, dan abrams and kate shaw. Pierre, let me begin with you. You were talking to Homeland Security and the fbi. Whats their greatest concern about election day . George, with emotions running so high in a bitterly Fought Campaign against a back drop of racial tension and a pandemic Law Enforcement is feeling the stress. Theres several concerns. Theres a real worry about white supremacists, antigovernment extremist and anarchists. There have been a number of suspected extremists placed under close surveillance of the fbi. Just last week federal prosecutors charged two men with manufacturing illegal hard to trace guns suspected of being neonazis. They had a list of names to include prominent black lives matter leaders and theres always a concern about lone wolf extremists. There have been at least two men recently arrested who discussed harming biden. No specific threat identified, but its a volatile environment. Still a lot of focus on foreign interference especially from russia and iran. Yes. Lets of concern about russia and iran. Theres real concern not just about election day. Theres concern they might try to sow disinformation while we wait for results. Law enforcement put out a bulletin warning they might deface websites, create new websites and sew information on social media. Lots of questions about whats going to happen on election day and after the votes are counted. Dan, lets start with the question about potential voter suppression, voter intimidation. What constitutes illegal voter intimidation . What should we be looking for on election day . Under federal law it involves intimidation, coercion, threatening. It doesnt just have to be someone showing up with a weapon and threatening someone literally. There are more subtle ways you can engage in voter intimidation which would be a violation of federal law. For example, pretending to be a poll worker. Asking people questions about, for example, citizenship. Making false threats about the results of voter fraud. Anyone who is sort of faking it at a polling place could also be accused of voter intimidation. The goal though, when youre intimidating someone in voting, is not just to prevent them from voting, but prevent them from voting for the person they choose. Kate, were seeing efforts to disqualify ballots. You saw that lawsuit filed in texas trying to disqualify people who voted in curbside voting. Right. Voter intimidation and suppression efforts are under way. As to intimidation i have to say the threat is very serious, but with 92 million voters casting their votes, its not something weve seen on a widespread basis. One point to make is that the election is actually going quite smoothly under these challenging circumstances, the fundamental architecture of our electoral system is performing remarkably well. We definitely will see issues arrive on election day. There could be voter intimidation. There could be long lines, issues with voter machines. I dont think any will go to the integrity of the election results. Americans can feel confident about how the election is going. Notwithstanding the issues that might arise. Youre right, these lawsuits, george, in particular the ones that seek to invalidate votes that have been counted are the most significant threat that we face in this election and courts injecting uncertainty into system is the biggest threat. Whats the biggest thing youll be looking for once the ballots get counted on tuesday night at 7 00 p. M. . You know, i think for me sorry. Kate and then dan. Sorry, george. For me it depends on how close things are. If theres a decisive when, the fact it will take a while to know who won a state like pennsylvania might not matter because things break in a way that makes things clear. If things are close and it comes down to pennsylvania, we need to hunker down and be patient. Pennsylvania has over 2 million voters who voted absentee. None of those votes have been counted yet because they cant be under pennsylvania law. It will take a little time. The challenges weve seen out of pennsylvania, challenges to ballots that arrive after election day which right now are lawful under pennsylvania law which is Supreme Court has ruled could be subject to renewed challenges potentially in the u. S. Supreme court. Dan abrams . Typically before the election the challenges you would see are how are the votes going to be counted . What are the rules going to be . In this election were seeing challenges to actual ballots, actual votes that have occurred. Thats what youll see after the election. Were those rules implemented correctly . Did they execute them properly in the various states . As kate points out, the fact you already have a number of states literally segregating ballots based on when they are going to arrive ballots that arrive after election day which they think are going to count, but theyre not 100 sure if theyre going to count, particularly in a state like pennsylvania, will certainly leave everyone on edge and leave open the possibility of major legal challenges. Youll both be with us tuesday. Thank you both very much. Well hear from the campaigns next, plus our powerhouse round table. Stay with us. Whats inside airborne . A blast of immune support thats more than just vitamin c. Its a unique crafted blend of vitamins, zinc, other minerals, and herbs. Thats why when you start every morning with airborne, youll have the confidence to take on the day. No wonder pharmacists recommend airborne more than any other immune support brand. Airborne. Your daily dose of confidence. Unlike ordinary memory want supplementster . 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In germany and other places if you have a heart attack or cancer, youre terminally ill, they say you died of cancer. You died of a heart attack. With us, when in doubt, choose covid. Its like 2,000 more. They get more money. This could only happen to us. The president on the campaign trail friday. Lets talk to Trump Campaign add adviser jason miller. The ama responded to that immediately saying it was a malicious, outrageous for the president to say doctors are inflating the results of covid. Why does the president say doctors are inflating covid numbers . George, good morning. Sunday morning where tens of thousands of people are waking up in pittsburgh and reading the post gazette and seeing theyve endorsed a republican for the First Time Since 1972. Thats President Trump for his reelection, were excited about that. To your comment about the president yesterday on the campaign trail, i dont think he was attacking anybody. He was talking about how most americans want to safely and securely reopen the country. Get back to work jason, we all just saw it. He talked about doctors inflating covid deaths for money. George, im not going to get into the billing aspects of which there have been many reports on. There have been independent things pointing to that. The fact of the matter is people want their life back to normal. Theyre tired of the lockdowns. Look at democratrun states like pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin. Were seeing this on the campaign trail with the rallies. People are tired of the lockdowns. They want to safely reopen. So youre repeating that . You believe doctors are inflating covid deaths for money . There have been a number of reports that raised issues out there regarding billing and things like that. The choice on the ballot is trump for people who want tax cuts and people who wants taxes increasing is joe biden. Thats whats on the ballot tuesday. The president is also saying doctors on the frontlines inflating covid deaths. The ama saying thats malicious. This comes as weve come through our worst week yet in cases. Cases are rising in 42 states. Hospitalizations are up. Deaths are starting to go up. Why does the president say were rounding the corner in the face of this surge . Were on the cusp of having the vaccine finalized and ready for distribution. It will be distributed by the end of the year. If we followed joe bidens advice, we never would have shut the country down to china or shut the country down to europe. The leadership President Trump is showing on getting therapeutics developed, vaccines, covid is no longer a death sentence for everybody who gets it. Weve made miraculous advancements. Thats the difference between operation warp speed and being locked in the basement. Were seeing cases surge against r across the country. I just ran through the statistics. H

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