Our plan is working. America is coming back. Just put me back in office. Well get it done. Martha President Biden and donald trump clinched their parties nominations as trump makes new inflammatory remarks. Its going to be a blood bath for the country. Martha house intelligence chair mike turner responds, and our conversation with those socalled double haters, voters unhappy with both candidates. I dont think any of us should continue to have this choice of the lesser of two evils. Martha ticking clock. This bill therefore forces tiktok to break up with the Chinese Communist party. Martha the house overwhelmingly passes a bill that could ban tiktok in the u. S. As content creators fight to save it. Members of the house of representatives are so out of touch. Martha whats at stake for National Security and whats next for the wildly popular app. Well ask Silicon Valley congressman ro khanna who opposed the bill. And sharp rebuke. Prime minister netanyahu has lost his way. Martha Senate Majority leader Chuck Schumer slams israels Prime Minister amid a deepening rift over the war in gaza. The latest reaction from the white house National Security spokesman, john kirby. Martha good morning, and welcome to this week. It was a week that began with President Biden and former President Trump officially clinching enough delegates to secure their parties nominations, setting up a november rematch that Many Americans say they dont want. Well hear from some of those dissatisfied voters, but we begin this morning with the latest inflammatory comments by both President Trump on the campaign trail, the contrast between the two candidates on clear display, and the general election is just getting started. Straight from his private jet to the podium, a freewheeling speech by former President Donald Trump last night in ohio. It began as many trump rallies do these days, with a song by the socalled january 6th prison choir. Please rise for the horribly and unfairly treated january 6th hostages. Martha made up of those serving time for storming the capitol. Trump framing them as hostages, patriots. You see the spirit from the hostages, and thats what they are is hostages. The first day we get into office, were going to save our country and were going to work with the people to treat those unbelievable patriots martha but that was just the beginning. Trump stoking more fear about migrants at the southern border. Trump at one point saying theyre not people. I dont know if you would call them people. In some cases theyre not people in my opinion, but im not allowed to say that because the radical left says thats a terrible thing to say. These are bad. These are animals. Martha while blasting the Auto Industrys embrace of electric vehicles, the former president making this comment now if i dont get elected, its going to be a blood bath for the whole thats going to be the least of it. Its going to be a blood bath for the country. Martha a top trump adviser taking acts to clean that up, saying he was referring only to the Auto Industry writing that president joe bidens insane ev mandate will slaughter the american Auto Industry. The Biden Campaign seizing on trumps statement to accuse the president s republican rival of threatening Political Violence and wanting another january 6th, and in an offcamera gala for the press last night, President Biden warning of what he called the toxic cycle of anger and conspiracy. Trump also directly attacked biden throughout the speech even saying this how about a couple of more indictments, joe . You dumb son of a that dumb son of a martha im joined by House Intelligence Committee chair mike turner who represents the ohio district where former President Trump spoke last night. Thanks for joining us this morning. The former president was in your district campaigning for a Senate Candidate that you do not support, but you have endorsed President Trump. Whats your reaction to comments like that . I think, you know, first off, i want to congratulate you, martha, that you correctly identified the comments made by the president were about the Auto Industry. People who came from mexico, who were given permission to import into the United States. I was not at the rally, but its important that be accurately portrayed. There are statement that is he makes that Many Americans would not agree with, and Many Americans would agree with it. When you talk about whats happening at the border, this is absolutely a crisis thats created by this administration. 8 Million People have come across the border. Almost the entire population of ohio. Director wray of the fbis saying this absolutely represents a National Security threat, that there are people who have come across the border who have ties to terrorist groups and organizations. We just last week had a hearing, and it was a public hearing martha congressman, i understand the crisis at the border and its something we have covered again and again. Im talking about former President Trumps comments calling them not people and animals. Well, i of course, disagree with those in the past. I think the American Public disagree with those, but i think that people see that donald trump is the only candidate in the race thats going to be able to fix this crisis. Joe biden created the crisis at the border. Weve seen nothing like it. 8 Million People, his own fbi director saying its a National Security threat, that we have the highest threat of a terrorist attack in this country right now as a result of the people that come across that border. Martha did you support the border package on the hill . No, i did not. It would not have fixed the problem at the border. In fact, it would have codified joe bidens policies allowing millions of illegal aliens to come in across the border every year. Martha i want to just i want to as a result martha i want to move to another comment. This is a result of bidens executive directors executive orders. He opened the border, and he has created this crisis. Martha we could go over what President Trump did and President Biden did, but i want to stick to these comments for a minute and just one more if we can. Hes also called those who stormed the capitol, and you heard that socalled january 6th choir. Hes called them hostages and patriots. What effect do you think that has on his supporters . It was President Trump who wanted his supporters to go up on the hill on january 6th. Does that have an effect on people when they hear those words . Well, as you know, he has not called for the storming of the capitol. There have been a number of concerns over how those cases have been prosecuted and the individuals where there have been cases even overturned. You would think of course, that donald trump would have very strong emotional feeling about the individuals who have who have been in jail and have gone to prison over these. Martha do you support those comments . Are they hostages . Are they hostages . Are they patriots . I dont believe theyre hostages. I believe in our judicial system, and i believe though, martha, as youve seen and reported them, some of these cases have been overturned. Some of even the legal construct of the basis of a number of these cases have been overturned. This is going to be, you know, a continuing legal process, and this person, you know, this president obviously has very strong personal views on this. Martha lets move onto tiktok, and talk about your bill. This is one area you defied donald trump on because he supports tiktok. That bill could potentially ban tiktok. You say its a National Security concern. I know you had that classified briefing. What can you tell us to make it more clear to americans why this is a problem . Sure. Well, martha, i think, you know, we have to first start with that china as a country is not like us. Its an authoritarian regime that has selfidentified as an adversary to the United States. It has banned twitter. It has banned facebook. It has banned youtube in china. It understands the power of social media and social media apps, and it certainly seeks in a number of illegal ways to obtain the data of americans that it can use as part of its perpetration of this greater Surveillance Society that it uses to control its own population. When president xi stood next to president putin in russia, he openly stated to the world what his intentions were. He said that, we, the two of them are going to bring about change that hasnt happened in 100 years. Thats the battle between authoritarianism and democracy, and thats what were seeing in chinas both economic, its propaganda, and certainly its military buildup that is part of its selfdeclaration as an adversary of the United States. Martha congressman, is there recent evidence that tiktok is sending a significant amount of data about americans to china . To the Chinese Government . Well, you know, martha, this what you see is a structural relationship for which there is not divisions, and there are great concerns about the individual privacy and issues of data between tiktok and the communist chinese party, but what you have even more importantly here is that this is a propaganda tool. These algorithms, and this influencing through social apps being in the hands of a selfdeclared adversary of the United States, one that has banned tiktok, banned twitter, banned sorry, not tiktok. Banned twitter, banned facebook, banned facebook, and banned youtube, and they understand the use of these tools to be able to manipulate a society, and thats one of the greatest concerns that we have. Martha we have a short time here, but you had a lot of tiktokers up on the hill this week, and tiktok apparently supports a minimum of 224,000 jobs in this country. What would you say to those americans who might lose their livelihood . I dont think theyll lose their livelihood. They have obviously undertaken a lively hood which is communicating to people. This is not a ban on tiktok as you know. This is a piece of legislation that requires that the chinese ownership of tiktok be divested so that we would sever that relationship between chinese ownership, the Chinese Government, the Chinese Communist party that is of such troubling concern. As you know, india has previously banned tiktok over the exact same concerns. These are concerns that as you look at what china is doing around the world, their propagation of society, and the means of which theyre acquiring data on americans and other people around the world, and their own banning of twitter, facebook, and youtube because of their concerns of the voices of democracy being heard, you can see what a great concern this is to our country. Martha thanks so much for joining us this morning, congressman. Always good to see you. Thank you, martha. Thank you. Martha so lets bring in democratic congressman ro khanna who represents Silicon Valley and voted against the tiktok bill. First of all, congressman, welcome, this morning, but i also want to ask you why you voted against it. I know youve said First Amendment concerns . Martha, look. There are two National Security issues the proponents of the bill have cited. Both are legitimate. One, will the data get to a foreign government, in this case, the Chinese Communist party . Two, will the Chinese Communist party have an influence on at go rhythms . We can deal with both with a narrowly tailored law. Second, lets ban any foreign interference in a social media app whether thats tiktok or another app, and by the way, those laws would cover data brokers which are selling data to chinese companies. This bill is not addressing the issue. 71 of americans want to protect data privacy. Only 31 want a ban on tiktok. Congress a, doesnt understand in my view, all of the social media and how its working and its out of touch with what the American People want. Martha how do you do that . What does that all mean, and how does that work . We dont always know whats going over there or whats being taken. Mar, that let me i think some of the facts would be helpful. So tiktok is owned by bytedance. Bytedance is a chinese company. It has 60 International Investors including kkr and general atlantic, three of the five Board Members are americans. They have data that currently oracle is managing in texas. As you mentioned earlier to congressman turner, there have been reports in some cases that that data has leaked and had access to people in china. No evidence publicly that the Chinese Communist party has had it, but there has been evidence that they could have it in Chinese National. So pass a law, one, to prevent these apps, whether its tiktok or facebook or youtube, for collecting data. That bill has been sitting in the House Congress committee for years, and it doesnt move. Second, pass a law that if theres any evidence that the data goes to china, then oracle and tiktok would be held liable civilly or criminally. Third, pass a law that if Chinese Nationals are involved in the algorithms, people are claiming these algorithms are manipulating americans. If theres any inside evidence that a Chinese National or any Foreign National is manipulating algorithms, that would be illegal. Martha congressman, i want to go back to the current bill, and if and your First Amendment concerns, what are those . I mean, if bytedance divests, the app could continue to function in the u. S. So what is the First Amendment concern that you have cited . Well, if the bill was just a divestment bill, i wouldnt have a problem with it. What the first rule the government should have done is perhaps have facilitated these american investors in having a spinoff and having tiktok be u. S. Owned. We didnt do that. The first two amendment concerns relate to the ban which is the second part of the legislation. The court has said that you have to have the least restrictive approach when you have a compelling speech interest. Here you have a speech interest of 170 million americans. I showed several less restrictive approaches than a ban. The court has also said you need alternative means of communication with a group on tiktok. Now you asked congressman turner you said, well, what about these 170 million many of these people, and 224,000 have a livelihood . How will they communicate with the tiktok audience . If you say, they can go on another social media app, those people havent talked to the people because thats not how it works. Martha you dont think its possible . I think it would be hard, and i dont think the Supreme Court would look at the audience and say, okay. You can just have people go onto a different app, but i certainly dont think its least restrictive, and the point is you have no evidence right now. You would have to have a compelling interest, what is the actual evidence that you couldnt pass a data privacy law or law banning data going to a foreign country, and get that done that way . The frustration is that we havent been able to pass these data privacy laws. I mean, it took three days to pass a sale and then if not ban on tiktok, and we havent passed data privacy. We havent passed the laws to ban foreign interference. The app where there were interference was facebook. We arent tackling those issues and we passed this blanket tiktok bill. Martha congressman, this passed overwhelmingly. Your other members of Congress Must have heard something that alarmed them. Nothing alarmed you enough to want to pass this urgently . Oh, it did concern me. The data privacy i have been i passed martha what you are talking about would take a very long time. No. I actually think it would be easier once we pass it. If we passed a law saying you cant transfer data, you cant collect data, that would solve the problem. There are so many data brokers sending information to china. This law does nothing to them. It does nothing in terms of other social media apps that are collecting data, and may be transferring data, and now one of the concerns that people were citing is, well, theres a lot of folks who have propalestine view points on tiktok. Well, there are propalestine views on instagram and facebook, and all it takes is to go to a College Campus and realize that demographic has more sympathy. Im not saying theyre right, but thats evidence of manipulation. Martha because of course, yo