Transcripts For KQED BBC World News Outside Source 20240713

KQED BBC World News Outside Source July 13, 2024

Pursuing solutns for americas neglected needs. And by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. Thank you. Host this is outside source on bbc news viewers in the u. K. And around the world. We are covering all of the latest on the coronavirus in britain and globally. Staggering jobs figures from the u. S. The number of americans filing Unemployment Benefits since march nears 40 million. China decreeing new National Security that will give it an even firmer grip on hong kong. Activists fear it is an attempt to limit freedoms and silence beijings opponents. At least 80 people are killed as a cyclone leaves a trail of destruction across parts of india and bangladesh. And we delve into the politics in brazil as the number of deaths from coronavirus there nears 20000 and infections skyrocket. Hello, and a warm welcome to the program. There are now over 5 million confirmed coronavirus cases worldwide, and roughly one third of them are in the u. S. , where the pandemic continues to devastate the job market. Another 2. 4 Million People have filed Unemployment Benefits for Unemployment Benefits in just the past week. Althou the rate of increase is slowing, todays numbers mean more than 38 Million People have claimed Unemployment Benefits the middle of march. Thats nearly a quarter of the american workforce. Our correspondent puts this into context for us. He tweeted that is more than the population of canada. The worst layoffs the United States has been since the great depression. Sameer picks up on this point and has more on what this could mean in the long rm. In just nine weeks, the entire population of canada lost their jobs. But as you pointed out, the number of the weekly pace is starting to drop. The alltime high was 6. 9 million at the end of march. We are seeing the numbers come down, but what is really worrying some economists is how permanent these layoffs will be. Initially, most people believed these would be layoffs while restaurants and stores were closed, but once they started reopening, those jobs would come back. Now we are seeing that in fact, people are suggesting that these layoffs will in fact be permanent. One economist estimates that 40 could be permanent. If that is the case, this recovery is going to be very long and very difficult. Host lets pick up on some of what to some euro was saying and lets hear what dominique has on some of whashe was saying and lets hear about what the president has said about the latest figures. Everybody realizes this is going to take quite a long time for the u. S. To recover. The president has just landed in michigan. He is touring a ford plant. His emphasis is on reopening the economy. He still thinks there could be a strong and swift recovery because people have been laid off and he says they are desperate to get back to work, get back to normality. I think if economists are saying some of these jobs are never coming back, its very hard to see what the president is hoping , a vshaped recovery. Its increasingly hard to see that happening. Host in terms of what this is doing for the president s popularity, it must be having an impact. Welcome of the whole handling of the coronavirus has had some impact, but the president s supporters, as we have been hearing, are still very much committed to the idea that he is doing a good job, personally, and they still have faith in him. His base seems to be holding with him through the coronavirus and through all of the economic disruption. Host thank you so much. Katty kay life from washington, as always giving us a perspective live from washington, as always giving us a perspective on the situation. We have many more details about the unemployment figures and the impact on our website, a lot more analysis as well. Just go to bbc. Com. Some viewers joining us in the u. K. Welcome. China is proposing new security laws in hong kong. The issue is on the agenda of the National Peoples congress session, which starts friday. It is seen as a rubberstamp for party decisions. Opponents say it amounts to a power grab by china. They say the those in favor say the law will bring hong kong in line with the mainland. National security is the bedrock of the countrys stability. Safeguarding National Security is the common interest of all people, including hong kong compatriots. Host hong kongs mini constitution, called the basic law, does require the government to bring in a security law. Beijing has always had the power to enact the security law into basic law, however, that is not how many see this. This is the end of hong kong. This is the end of one country, two systems. Make no mistake about it. Beijing has completely breached its promise to the hong kong people, a hong kong signed into declaration anlaw. They are now completely walking back on their obligation to the hong kong people. You can hear their there were clearly you can hear there were clearly fears of suppression scenes like this ones these. These are images from the protests in 2019 and earlier this year. This was in response to a bill that would allow beijing to extract people to Mainland China to face trial. We might not know any more details until they actually pass this. But what we can tell from leaks multiple mea outlets include subversion, terror activities, foreign intervention. The decision is to be passed by the National Peoples congress, so it is more likely to be a decree rather than a full piece of law with all of that. At these are the areas that would be covered but these are the areas that would be covered, and at this moment, you might recall there was proposed legislation in 2003 that had such a backlash with almost half a Million People going onto the streets in protest. The only point that is new on top of that is terrorism. Host lets look at a tweet from gina ann tam. She writes that even for those who have been writing about warning signs for years, this is still monumental. So many possible futures and the protests possible outcomes have been erased. Our guest played a leading role in drafting the law that gave rights to hong kong citizens when the u. K. Ended it back to china. Here is his reaction. China is breaking more promises made to hong kong and the british government. By keeping on doing these things. It is not just a lot they intend to pass in beijing. It is up to the Hong Kong Legislature to enact laws for hong kong. The Standing Committee of the mpc cannot do it under the many constitutions basic law, but they are going to do it. It will be passed in beijing. Now, i think they are afraid they may lose control of hong kong in the next election in september. So, they want to set a precedent so they can legislate for hong kong, bypassing t legislative council. It is a double disaster for hong kong. Host we still have not had reaction from the United Kingdom to this news. As for the United States reaction, here is president trump. Mr. Trump i dont know what it is because it hasnt happened yet. Host lord chris patton was hong kongs last governor before the 1997 handover. This is what he said the International Community should oing in response to this announcement from beijing. Lord patton i can tell you what it should be, and led by the United Kingdom, which signed the declaration with china. It is an international treaty. We should make it clear to the chinese that this is outrageous. The Prime Minister and the foreign secretary should make that absolutely clear. We should talk to our allies, our friends around the world, all of whom continue to consider hong kong a Great International city in asia. Secondly, whether or not china can be trusted to keep its word. There are all too many examples of that not being the case. The preoccupation, which everybody rightly has in fighting this awful epidemic, they have used that preoccupation to bully and harass in other areas. One of them is kong. This is the first significant move by beijing since almost a year of protests on the streets of hong kong and it will be incendiary on o levels. First, the protesters will see this as further evidence that the communist led government in beijing is increasingly eroding the autonomy that hong kong has, particularly when it comes to its legal system, its educational system, and its police. Secondly, it is the manner in which beijing may be able to simply impose these changes without having to seek the approval of hong kongs elected officials. The ability to do that includes going ahead and trying to do that. If this National Security law were to change and there are reports it would target any moves against secession, sedition, and terror in hong kong it may have an impact on hong kongs trading relationship, particularly with the United States. It has been show changed special trading rights and that may change. It is likely to cause further otests as well. Chinese president xi jinping has spoken in the past of crushing the protesters. He has been criticized for bringing parts of hong kong to near paralysis over the past year with at times millions of people on the streets. Host we will get more details on friday when the debate takes place. We will bring that to you. At least 80 four people are now known to have died in one of the most powerful cyclones to hit india and bangladesh in years. It brought down trees and telephone lines and flattened power. Our correspondent reports from mumbai. It hit on wednesday evening. Then plundered through the state for hours. In the morning, this is what the regions biggest city looked like. Lkata ravaged by what many residents say is the worst kolka calcutta ravaged by wht many say is the worst storm in years. Parts of the city underwater, including the airport. Across the border and bangladesh, more destruction both countries have a lot of experience dealing with cyclones. Evacuation measures saved thousands of people, but it will be a while before they can build back their lives. It has been devastating. The scale of devastation is quite big. I would say for 20 of the people in our working areas, they are not going to be back home tonight. Bit by bit, relief teams are working to restore and rebuild. Cyclone season has just begun. Many are hoping it doesnt get any worse. Bbc news, india. Host do stay with us on outside source. Still to come, the u. K. Government provides 10 million coronavirus antibody tests with healthcare workers the first to be tested. Scotlands first minister, Nicola Sturgeon has outlined a plan for exiting lockdown. Next week, some limits on Outdoor Activities will be relaxed. She emphasized that there is no riskfree way to do this and that the virus has not gone away. She did set out a roadmap, if you like, for how she sees life going back to some semblance of normal in the weeks and months ahead. The first phase, as you said, from next thursday onward, would involve primarily Outdoor Activities, people being able to see others from another household as long as it is outside, as long as social distancing is maintained, some Outdoor Sports being able to resume like tennis, bowling, fishing, golf golfing. Forestry and agriculturee to resume as well. Garden centers will be reopen as will recycling facilities. Host hello, welcome. You are watching outside source life on the bbc. The white house is under pressure as the number of americans who have sought on Employment Benefits since march nears 40 million. Here in the u. K. , nhs workers and hospital and care home residents will be the first to be tested for antibodies next week. The government has agreed to work with abbott labs to buy the test that shows if people have already had the virus. It comes as the number of deaths reported in the last 24 hours has gone u by 338 people, bringing the official death toll in the u. K. To just over 6000. It is a test which can tell you whether you have already had coronavirus and whether you might have immunity. That is important for someone needing to know if it is relatively safe to go into work. The test for antibodies in the bloodstream is going to be made available next week to tens of thousands of nhs patients and care workers. We have developed a Critical Science to know the impact of the test, and to be able to give people who have antibodies assurance of what they can safely do. Testing shows if someone currently has the virus. Nasal and throat swabs are taken and sent to labs. Some workers say they are struggling to get tested. She had to lift to a long she had to get a lift for a long drive to a testing center. There was no mobile testing, when people come to your home to test you. The only option is to drive. If you dont drive, you are stuck. Testing and tracing are seen as essential if any futures bread future spread of the virus is to be curbed, but it is a complex process. Here is how Contact Tracing should work. If i test positive for the virus , i will be contacted with officials and asked to tell them who i have met up with in recent days, meetings of less thanwo meters. That mig include friends i spent time with and work colleagues i might have been in meetings with, or a wider circle of recent contacts. All of that will be aessed by a clinical team. People might be contacted and told to self isolate for 14 days. There will also be a mobile phone app to help the tracing process. The Prime Minister says the full system will be in place by early june, but some Health Leaders are spec are skeptical. The question is, have we got an effective system in place, and we dont introduce further measures until we are absolutely sure that system works effectively. Host as priscilla purchased 20,000 deaths from coronavirus come as brazil approaches 20,000 deaths from coronavirus, its government is under more pressure, particularly president bolsonaro. By may, brazils number of cases was the third highest in the world. The virus the president dismissed as a little flu has had killed 17,000 people, and he was being held responsible. A leading journal wrote that perhaps the biggest threat from covid19 was brazils president. But can we explain brazils plight through zhao bolsonaro alone through bolsonaro alone . We paid attention to the United States. Mr. Trump was very comfortable saying he would take care of it. We really thought he had some sort of science that would be released soon. That was the former Health Minister who advocated social distancing and was fired. The next person on the job, when asked about the decision to reopen gyms replied, was that announced today . It didnt go through the ministry. Days later, he was out. In march, bolsonaro told supporters the cure is right there. He does now have a Health Minister. Chloroquine has been cleared for covid19 treatment despite not being proven to work and having nasty side effects. Being guided by donald trump, undermining the health ministry, using dismissive language and promoting an unproven drug are all relevant to what has happened, but arguably, the lack of a lockdown has mattered even more. This is an antilockdown rally. As you can see, these are not adcates of social distancing. But it is brazils states, not the president , who have the power to impose restrictions, and they have done so to varying degrees. About 40 of the labor force is in the formal economy. A lot of people liverom hand to mouth. For them, it is hard to stay inside the house when you dont have the money to do that. Brazils economy is the worst performing in the world. The Stock Exchange index is plummeting. Manufacturing is slumping. Unemployme is rising. One person wrote my Investment Advice would be not to run into a burning building. But how best to put out that fire . Ecuadors president has defended its lockdown but says it is as if a family has lost half of what it needs to live. The delicate balance between saving lives and saving incomes is universal in the pandemic. The question of whether brazil can afford a lockdown has had consequences. At the end of the day, he is present and people listen to him. At the end of the day, that is what is confusing. Should they listen to bolsonaro or the State Government . Viruses are not prejudiced. Two examine the response to consider the response, we must consider a president who has not always had one. At the moment, frances only allowing essential travel from abroad. It has not said when its four travel ban will be lifted. Spain has started lifting restrictionsbut restrictions remain in madrid and barcelona. Italy is starting to open up this week. Meanwhile, greece plans to kickoff tourist seas next month with international chartered flights. Our correspondent has just arrived in athens. When you arrive at the airport, this is one of the first things you see. People are getting a test for covid19. Everybody who gets the test has to go into isolation for 24 hours. There has been a two week quarantine for everyone arriving in the country. That is about to end as greece is ready to welcome back tourists. This airport is seeing 400500 passengers a day. Last year, they saw Something Like 30 milli passengers, three times the population of the country. It depends on that money. This is a country that has gone through 10 years of terrible economic crisis. I am now in my Isolation Hotel room courtesy of the greek government, and i have to stay here for 24 hours, and i will be staying here because the fine for breaking that quarantine is 5000 euros. Greece has done too well compared to other countries in terms of coping has done pretty well compared to other countries in coping with the pandemic. The rest of europe is looking toward this country

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