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so we are in desperate need for new leadership in this country, at least in the level of the white house. >> let's take a comparative view, if you will hear me for a moment, douglass, interestingly, since 2000, former world leaders have been jailed or prosecuted in at least 78 countries. a few brief examples, south korea, peru, for example. not to mention the current vice president in argentina. why is it so shocking then for the pursuit of accountability from our united states president? >> i think because we believed we were the city on the hill, as ron reagan used to talk about. that there was an american exceptionalism that we wear the beacon of light in a very troubled world, that our democracy was the adulation of countries foreign wide. that we were the countries that ran free and fair elections, and for all of our difficulties and lumps, in the end, the united states was a nation of