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operatives who recalled observing one of these focus groups and they tried explaining to the republicans in the focus group that trump promised to build a wall. that was his signature campaign promise in 2016. and there is no wall on the u.s. mexico border. and there was a woman in the group who said, well, actually, he must have meant to do that. he intentionally left gaps in the wall because that way it would heard the migrants into those gaps and make them easier to detain. and the operative told me, watching this and just thinking, how can you possibly argue with that kind of thinking? >> isaac, how much hat has this to do with a polarized news environment, where people just get different stories? their realities about what donald trump is and what he says are entirely different, including the fact that he sort of uses increasingly authoritarian and dictatorial rhetoric that we generally turn people off in a democracy and it's not for his supporters? >> he's been speaking to