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he and sam jacobs interviewed biden for the cover story on may 28th at the white house. massimo, good morning. what is the pitch if you had to put it on a bumper sticker? we ll let you go a little longer. what is the pitch for a second term other than keeping donald trump out of the white house again? well, i think the point that biden and his team make is that foreign policy is very, very important, as important as any issue. the difference between biden and trump on foreign policy is as big a difference as has existed on foreign policy in 100 years, maybe ever. biden believes in alliances. trump and his team are very skeptical, don t like alliances. it matters generally for the future of the world and for americans prosperity and security, which way the country chooses to go.