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this is a personal connection. it is one about the themes that are important. there was an extensive ovation for president zelenskyy of ukraine who is here with the other leaders. the president will meet him tomorrow. so it is both historical. it is emotional, and st in some ways very much current events. chris. thank you for that, kelly. mark updegrove is president and ceo of the lbj foundation and a presidential historian. he joins us on the phone. there is no question in the minds of surviors or historians of the significance of what happened that day, eight decades ago. there s an op-ed in the new york times that argues that in 2024 s political environment, quote, we now face the very real question of whether america will embrace a vision of a country less free and less democratic, more divided and more unequal. it would be a step back ward unlike almost anything else in american history. do you think that today and really leading up to today