Coconspirator best known for being detained without pants helped him do it. Step on out. Here come this way. Can i put pence on . First sir, youve got to clear the house. And why the people who prosecuted the impeachment of donald trump agree with the attorneys defending donald trump that the federal trial of donald trump should be televised. Lets have cameras in the courtroom so that all americans can see what is happening in our criminal Justice System. When all in starts right now. Good evening from new york, i am chris hayes. Well, for donald trump, the stakes at the next president ial election are clear. We all know them. He is running for his freedom. They put and even finer point on it, hes running for his life. The ex president now faces 78 criminal accounts across three jurisdictions and a combined 641 years in prison. At age 77, if hes convicted of any offenses, just one, he could spend the rest of his natural life behind bars. The stakes for the country are equally dire. Donald trump tried to and americas constitutional republic. Weve known that, have known that for a while. The facts there alleged in the most recent indictment. The facts as they are laid out in the 848page select committee report, and the facts as we all witnessed them with our own two eyes in the run up to and on the day of january six, 2021. Had donald trump convinced enough people to go along with the scheme, we could be living right now and a kind of president ial dictatorship. He has explicitly set and signaled multiple times that he is running again to finish the job. I will appoint a real Special Prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the United States of america, joe biden. [applause] and the entire biden crime family. Name a Special Prosecutor, and all others involved with the destruction of our elections, our borders and our country itself. When i am reelected, and we will get reelected, will have no choice, we wont have a country anymore. I will totally obliterated the deep state. We will obliterate the deep state. The ex president now finds himself cornered. Hes mostly alone, you notice that . None of his Family Members by his side, unable to cement the mobs with the official power of the presidency. He smaller, anyways, not getting any younger, and he is attempting to start his way through. This afternoon, heat there and, apparently, his prosecutors, writing, if you go after me, im coming after you. If elected next year, donald trump could very well escape accountability. That is the plan of him and his advisers. Get elected and avoid facing trial over the doesnt of charges and then upon taking office, he would say about the task of completing the unfinished work of january six, which was the work of destroying american democracy. As the New York Times reported last month, trump and his allies are planning a sweeping expansion of president ial power of the government. Reshaping to structure of the Executive Branch to concentrate far Greater Authority in his hands. It includes bringing in independent agencies under direct president ial control, dividing the practices of impounding funds, refusing to spend Money Congress appropriated for the president does not like. Making it easier to repay civil servants, removing state Department IntelligenceAgency Officials that he described as the sikh Political Class of hatred and crime. Lets be clear, a lot of this is tough talk from a guy who is in a lot of trouble. Hitting up the caps a lock on his truth social post, but youve got to take it seriously. If you ever seen an image of what happened on january six, right . The guy is running for president , he cant win. Imagine how our system of justice would run in that world . Its hard to think about, but it could have been. Taking the oath, hes elected president , maybe he would pardon his unindicted coconspirator Jeffrey Clark and finally succeed installing that guy as Attorney General. Not a completely farfetched idea if donald trump wins the presidency again. He could not beat making it more clear that he intends to defeat american democracy once and for all if he is given the means. Obviously, obviously, it goes without saying, i know i had to say, but a man like that should not be. That was clear to me and many of you eight years ago when he came down the escalator. There are mechanisms stopping short of putting him in person for the rest of his life. First of all, theres a good case to be made that he should be barred from Holding Office under the 14th amendment of the constitution. Section three of which states, and i quote, no person should hold any office having previously taken an oath to support the constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion or the same, and theres been a movement sprung up to try to bar his reelection on precisely these grounds. I gotta say, it has not gotten a ton of attention, but i think it has a lot of mayor. Donald trump plainly engaged and an insurrection and should be ineligible for future office per the u. S. Constitution. I think the original intent of the amendment would see it that way too. But, of course, there is another way that he could be a part of the future office, and that is impeachment. Remember that one . After january six, donald trump was impeached by the house for the second time, the first president ever. He could have been convicted in the senate, and pursuant to the conviction, barred from holding future office. Several members of his party voted for that conviction. It was the most bipartisan support for a impeachment conviction in the history at the nation. At one point, Even Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell was reportedly considering voting to convict. When it came down to it, mcconnell just washed his hands of the whole thing. Shrugged, told the country, not my job to hold donald trump accountable, but maybe someone else to do it . Our system of government gave a specific task. The constitution gives us a particular role. This body is not invited to act as the nations overarching moral tribunal. President trump is still liable for everything he did while in office. As an ordinary citizen, unless the statute of limitations is run, still liable for everything he did while in office. It is not get away with anything yet, yet. We have a criminal Justice System in this country. We have civil litigation, and former president s are not immune from being accountable to either one. All of these guys, theyre also tough, stern, hectoring, posting in caps lock, its mcconnell, hes not at the woods yet. Bravely standing on the senate floor to dump the problem of a sociopathic, Maniacal Hater of democracy on someone else. He should really do something about this guy. And thereby allowing the ex president to escape accountability and the of his punishment for his crimes which is to bar him from running for office again, where he cannot do so and threatened the republic. And Mitch Mcconnell voted to acquit donald trump. He told republicans to vote their conscience and all those that voted to acquit. So, now that someone else has actually done the thing that Mitch Mcconnell said they should do, hold him liable for his alleged crimes under a system of justice, gosh, have not heard a lot from mitch. He seemed silent on the matter. To be clear, we are where we are, with both accountability of donald trump and the fate of the american constitutional republic, i am not overstating things, hanging in the balance, a tossup, because Mitch Mcconnell and all the Senate Republicans and the whole Republican Party just refused to do the obvious simple straightforward thing. They could have just convicted him. We would not be here, but they refused to convict him, for inciting a violent Insurrection Act, there earned a bunch of police officers, the life of the Vice President , an insurrection that went on for hours, violently in front of us, where over 1000 people have been charged, that we all watched happen, the one that he incited, that we knew he incited, that they could have convicted him that, could have barred him from future office, but they did not. So now we have time to think. Congresswoman Madeleine Dean is served as the manager in the second Impeachment Trial of donald trump. She joins me now. Well, have you thought about that impeachment as much as i have been the last few days . Ive thought about it an awful lot, chris, thank you for having me on. Youre absolutely right, and we as managers, as we prepare the case with the able league of jamie raskin, so faithful to the constitution, we really believe that this evidence was so overwhelming that, of course, 100 senators should have voted guilty. We knew what was going on politically, but what we wanted was for a guilty verdict and then the opportunity, as you say, to disqualify him by way of a separate vote for further office. Youre absolutely right, there are other constitutional means, the 14th amendment, insurrection, the 25th amendment, and we have learned that some secretaries they begin to speak about disqualifying him, showing that hes unfit for office. The founders gave us these levers, the break the glass levers in the case at this level of corruption and criminality. I have to tell you the last day when each member of the senate, you know how they did, they started to cast their votes, i went running back in from the little war room where we prepared to see and watch and listen to their votes. And i watched as miss mcconnell stood and his place, said not guilty, sat down, and when we went back to the courtroom, within minutes at the conclusion a deficit, as you say, 57, 43, Mitch Mcconnell stood and gave a prepared speech that said that the president is practically and morally responsible. Practically speaking of both sides of his mouth. I think about it a lot. It was a very stern speech after being voted not guilty. What is important to me that we face ourselves in this remarkable situation, the multiple indictments, the most important is jack smiths indictment, for the crimes that is laid out in the select committees report. That criminal conviction is not the only means at our disposal. The Constitution Kahntah puts precisely the most appropriate sanction here, that we got to this point, which is disqualification. It is contemplated by the constitution, the notion that certain people should be barred from office. If ever such a person existed, it seems to be that this man is he. You know, i was thinking, as we were preparing the case, and one i would be off and not having a role, which is be observing and preparing, i was thinking and praying frankly that the members of the senate would have been called for the wisdom of solomon. You know what solomon asked for . He asked for an open heart. He asked for wisdom and an open heart. God said that i am very impressed with. That you did not ask for power, riches or long life. I prayed that those folks there would see with the wisdom of solomon, what this country needed, which was to disqualify this man, hold him accountable, to hold him guilty for incitement of insurrection and disqualify him. Look at where we are now because theyre not do their duty, because they did not after with them. They were instead praying for power, and i dont know what else. How do you think about all of this unfolding . How seriously do you take the threat . Hes a front runner for the nomination, were a polarized country, if you went one of the major party nominations, you are, you know, he probably start with 40 of the vote. Its extraordinarily frightening. You see the polls that have President Biden and the former guy a dead heap. I believe that will shake out and become very, very different because the economy has moved in the right direction. We have past incredible resources that are going into american communities, into American Homes and businesses. I think that will change, but you are right to sound an alarm. This is a very scary time. If this man gets the nomination, somehow delays these trials. I have a feeling that the judge in d. C. Will not be played with. But if somehow he gets the nomination or, somehow, would win the election, the threat to our democracy is so grave, i dont even want to talk about it. You have raised some at those things. He says a out loud. I was thinking of his inaugural and dress. Remember what he said, the stunning line, that this American Carnage stops now. You know what i heard when he said that, this American Carnage Starts now. He is in the midst of American Carnage. People have lost their lives, and we have people like mccarthy and mcconnell taking a backseat to all of this. Mccarthy entertaining the idea of the resolutions to a race is impeachments as though that never happened. Tell that to the officers who lost their lives, to the families who lost their lives, the officers so severely wounded. All of us in the capital terrorized, your colleagues terrorized, these staffers who cleaned up the mess, you cant arrest this part of history. 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Putting aside for a moment whatever principles are opposition some republican officials may feel towards trumps attempt to overthrow democracy, which dont seem that strong, frankly. Forget about that, obviously, i am worked up about that. But purely electoral stuff and just, wouldnt you expect to see some sense of urgency over the political problem at the party now faces.