President lyndon b. Johnson signed the Voting Rights act into law. Removing legal barriers for black voters, johnson not only made a quality at the ballot box of reality for everyone but he also ensured this nations laws matched its revered ideals. And yeah, its over the ensuing indicates protections under the act have been chipped away. Most notably after the 2013 Supreme Court decision in shelby v. Holder which made it easier for states to pass restrictive voting laws. Still, the outcome of our elections and our democracy held firm. Until january six 2020 line. An angry red violent mob stormed the capitol driven by one terrified goal. Overturn a free and Fair Election. They were motivated by the lives of one. Dan donald j trump. The new twice impeached thrice indicted for now former president of the United States. That dark day expose just how fragile american democracy, our democracy, really is. But, trump is now finally facing accountability for trying to illegally stated. Power that indictment includes a significant charge. Conspiracy against the right to vote. Thats charged isnt portent because trump is still pushing the big lie. Just last night in south carolina, they repeat that the 2020 president ial election was quote, raped. And went after Special Counsel jack smith. He also went after his former Vice President mike pence. Inflammatory social media post after he was warned that retaliating against a witness is a crime. And because of trumps threatening rhetoric, his legal team has until five pm tomorrow to respond to a protective order request from the Special Counsels office. Prosecutors filed a request for the protective order with judge Tanya Chutkan late friday night to bar trump of exposing any evidence in the investigation as a Discovery Phase begins. In their requests, the Special Counsel prosecutors cited a post from trump that said quote, if you go after me i am coming after you. That threat only serves to highlight a Stirring Rebuke of trump and his inaction during the insurrection from congresswoman liz cheney. At the final public hearing of the january 6th select committee. No man who would behave that way at that moment in time can ever serve in any position of authority in our nation again. He is unfit for any office. Joining me now is former florida congresswoman stephanie murphy. Also the former member of the january 6th elect committee. Charles coleman junior, Msnbc Legal Analysis Towards Attorney and former brooklyn prosecutor. And douglas brinkley, president ial historian and professor of history at rice university. Thank you all very much for coming to The Sunday Show. Douglas, let me start with you. Talk about this Inflection Point in history that we are in. Especially on this day. The 58th Anniversary of the signing into law of the Voting Rights act . There is nothing more sacred in the United States and the right to vote and one of the biggest moments in my lifetime as the Voting Rights act. I would predict its going to sell, will alabama, varied marches way to educate a remind ourselves that voting is a sacred right. And the fact of the matter is that donald trump really has broken that compact with the american people. But their refusal to admit that it was a free and Fair Election is one thing. But to start creating a conspiracy to deny people the right to vote, to look for slights of Fake Electors, and to be the first president in u. S. History that did not allow us to have a peaceful transfer of power, is all reprehensible stuff. And its all boiling in to these indictments of trump and georgia are coming up is going to be just as damning inflammatory as what we have just had coming out of washington, d. C. Congresswoman murphy, euro the of trumps indictment and the threat on the Social Media Page if you come after me a come after you. I am proud to say that the january six select committee laid out the broad conspiracy. I think its the first time that we unveil the january six was not just a spontaneous riot that happened at the capitol but rather was a Culmination Of A Multi Pronged approach to overturning the free and Fair Election stripping americans of their right to vote. And a half that vote be reflected in the outcome of the president ial election. So, we laid that broadly, the Indictment Mirror as much of what we put out in that report. In addition we are able to get folks who did seek to our committee who pled the fifth they were able here sure the shulman. Theyve gotten even more evidence. I would. Happens as it, threats everybody was on the select committee and he was part of the impeachment regarding january six had to have protective details. Because they thought they were coming in. This is a reflection of how powerful people have control and have the ability to influence others to act on their behalf. We saw that culminated january six but you can see in small ways, to as people respond and back of these threats, that the former president makes. Charles, we spoke to alabama on friday saying marxist prosecutors are what he called racist in reverse. Live for us meant. Whats your reaction to donald trump trying to use the Reverse Racism Card here . Here you have a white man who has been privileged his entire life. A multi millionaire who has been the president of the United States. Now playing the race card. I think it is beyond rich room to attempt that. Especially at this moment. Playing the role of somebody who is being persecuted simply because hes being prosecuted. Ultimately, im not surprised by. This this is very much so donald trump. Using a blow on to sunday full signal to his entire base. For the purposes of energizing them and galvanizing them. At the end of the day, lets face, it also raising. Money that is a huge part of this strategy. And terms of what he is tapping into with regard to his base and what he will respond to. Its not a surprise, it is ultimately disgusting and inappropriate. But unfortunately, thats what has moved the needle from thus far. The attacks on charges, on prosecutors, and everyone who is involved in this process are going to not only continue but also possibly intensify. Douglass, trump is gone after judges and prosecutors because also going after witnesses. How unprecedented are these attacks on our legal system among former president s . Maybe about 20 years ago. The mafia, new york and chicago might try to pull such stance. We have never seen somebody a week like such a boy, do intimidation, make if you bubba you back. It is reprehensible. Its a sign of an hand dictatorial mind. A man with an authoritarian bands. Determined to seek revenge and anybody who might be telling the truth. If that truth gets him in any way shape or form, so it is a horrific spectacle. And he is actually a citadel of ever since donald was not born in america, straight on to charlottesville to the points of him not wanting to have a judge because they were mexican american. There are hundred, thousand the muslim ban try this president. This is next president. Who really believes in white power. That is his base and that is what he builds his Political Party off of. It just makes your stomach turn a lot to think that this person was once a day in the resolute death. Same pace that fdr had a deal with. Manhattan project with an Executive Order. John f. Kennedy using an Executive Order to create the peace. We have trump sitting there suing in this kind of regional animosity. Aimed at dividing our country. I want to talk more about that in the next plot because you raise excellent points in that answer. Congresswoman murphy, among the charges that Special Counsel jack smith leveled against donald trump, incitement to insurrection is not one of them and thats one of the charges, correct me if im, wrong that the january 6th select Committee Says he could be charged. With are you disappointed that Insurrection Charge is not among the Subject Smith has levies . I have faith that jack smith has identify the charges for which he has the evidence to secure a conviction. I think thats a really important. Prosecutors have a really good records. I, think that last year, they were successful in over 90 of the cases that come before them. It is important that this prosecution be very tight. Thats why today put forward in the charges, they have the evidence to secure a guilty verdict. And so, well hes not put forward many of the recommendations that we have in our point, i trust his judgment on this. Everything ive says, a lot of people average americans lied to by this former president. 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And the difference there is White Nationalism refers to the idea that only white people at the once you are allowed to and supposed to participate and run those democratic institutions. Which are at the core of how our country operates. When you talk about who has access to the vote youre talking about who has access to be prosecuted and be a judge that all of these are people in positions that sit at the helm of democracy. So what donald trump and others like him who shares beliefs of ideologies, it white ash, unless believe that we do not have to respect within these positions. Because these people are not even supposed to be able to participate in the systems that make america america. Its very much so in line with the same ideology is very much so of the vote that says and things that other people who are not white are not american enough to participate in those institutions that we understand america to be. Congresswoman murphy given everything we have been talking about donald trump still has allies in congress who are defending him. Speaker mccarthys chief among them and even hinting at the possibility of the harris trumps in impeachments. That will allow you to speak really freely about your reaction to that. Our democracy is stronger this healthy Political Party and for the Republican Party is a bit ill at this moment and they have lost their sense of principle on conservative policies that used to drive their party and i think when you see that shameless heads long supports for very little respect for the law the constitution. It would be great if that Republican Party could return to the party. Iron for the days of the reagan republicans, we could argue and debate the policies that can lead this country forward as opposed to being website by their Blind Loyalty to prostitution to the United States . Its incredible that i tim longing for the days of the Republican Party under ronald reagan, which is pretty incredible. Im gonna switch gears charles, and talk about what could be the fourth indictment of the former president that is coming out of Fulton County, georgia. Bringing this question to you because you have been the indictment whisperer. Fani willis has told folks about a road closures. The Sheriffs Office has an asteroid pleasures near the courthouse in Fulton County, georgia, from tomorrow until august 18th. When do you think the Fulton County grand jury making a decision. But this decision being the fourth indictment of donald trump . Jonathan, you have made a habit of putting me in this position and i have accepted the challenge every time. Im going to, gas obviously, this will be within the next few. Weeks but i anticipate it will come not this week but next week. The question is whether donald trump was going to be needed that indictments. I know the government sees it as a foregone conclusion. I do see it is more likely than not. Are you think that we do have to prepare ourselves it is possible that there is starstudded names on that indictments and donald trump might not be one of them. I do think that as i said, it is more likely than not but i do not want to approach this as donald trump being the only name it is going to be in the indictments. I think that fani willis is going to lay as a very sprawling, very intricate and detailed rico case against the number of different conspiracies. And donald trump may not be one of. Them but prepare for us to see this, like us, that pulling up this week. But by next week. You wont make a prediction, but then you Say Something they got my ears to perk up. One, dont be surprised if donald trump is not indicted by fani willis. The Fulton County d. A. But, too there could be other as you say starstudded games. Iverson in the jumped at it, me not for the giuliani but senator lindsey graham, is that he or hinting at . Thats exactly one painting. Asked when i say this is not that no anything more than anyone else. But the foreperson for the Grandeur Investigation testified, or rather talking went on her media tour shortly after the grand during vestal geisha. Including, she did mention there were a number of very recognizable things. Even if some of their graham was not a part of that. I think there will be other recognizable names electrocuting number one who we know to be ready giuliani. But there are also others who were interviewed and put on the stand in front of the grand jury investigation. I dont necessarily know that it will be limited in that way. Let me be clear, again, i think it is more likely than not that Donald Trumps name is on that indictments even if it isnt, that i am firmly convinced that there is going to be some very very recognizable names as part of indictments. That is one interesting. Read douglass, one question of squeezing a bit of extra time here, they said that trump should expect to get the mugshot taken if and when he is indicted. How would Something Like that Spirit Membered in history . Real quick . It is a media collectible. Dont throw the, way gather the one posture of trumps an atlanta president , does not belong with any of the other preside