Donald trump, President Trump, believed in his heart of hearts that he had won that election. As any american citizen, he had a right to speak out under the first amendment. He had a right to petition governments around the country, state governments. This is based on his grievances that Election Irregularities had occurred. He had every right to speak about the important issues that were taking place after the election. It is coming as the judge stands by a monday deadline for that legal team to answer for an ominous threat delivered by trump. The Special Counsel is taking action to counter. Across, President Biden is trying to stay above the fray when it comes to the 2024 opponents legal issues. As the time to start taking trump. On im going to talk to Julian Castro about the Candidates Campaign strategy. Were also keeping an eye on Breaking News out of alaska. Stunning images as major flooding hits the state. I dramatic and to the american womens world cup dreams. Were going to take you to australia for that. We begin with those new developments in the latest trump indictment. A judge in the interference case denied a request from trumps legal team for an extension on the deadline to respond after prosecutors asked for a protective order. This is acute the former president from disclosing evidence and other case information. The trump team has until five pm monday to respond. Joining me now, jordan reuben, writer for msnbc. Com. A former prosecutor for the New York CountyDistrict Attorneys Office in manhattan. Also with, as robert mcquade, nbc legal analyst and attorney in michigan. Take a look at that background. Coming through. Jordan, let me start with you on this one. Does this really show the judge is not going to comply when it comes to what looks to be the trump teams Delay Tactics . I think thats right. Its certainly, we couldnt have gotten a quicker hands in this. This is on top of her already signaling that she wants to know, sooner rather than later, what the respective size of the trial dates. Are we are going to get really quick clues about how the judge is handling this. We already had one, even unexpectedly, over the weekends. This is for knocking down trumps attempt to delay, responded to a motion for a in order. Talk me through, jordan, if you will, one Order Protection would really mean. We know its going to keep trump from disclosing some of the evidence of change in the trial, but will it keep him from making these kinds of threatening posts that we have been seen and this time, what were used to see him for the former president. Not necessarily. Its important to remember that this order of protection motion, they didnt make a gets on the post. We had to get an Order Protection. Now this is an order, a motion i should say, that they were already going to make to try to prevent trump from disclosing sensitive information, grand jury information, witness information. It just so happens that this threat that he made happen to be a good supporting evidence that the Special Counsel included in extra reason why trump needs this protective order. The government is successful here, trump wont be allowed to disclose sensitive information, grand jury information, because this is all dependence, this is all related to the timeline too. They are ready to hand over discovery to the defense, but were not comfortable doing that until this protective order is in place. Thats what the government is trying to accomplish here. Jordan, reuben thank you for joining us. Barb, lets get into more of this. Trumps attorney, john laura, will be making the rounds a lot to say the least listen to, show especially this morning. I had a fairly Tense Exchange with her own chuck todd. Lets take a listen to that. It was specifically about, of course, a former Vice President s role in all of this. Mentioned, i believe, over 100 times in the 45page indictment. Lets listen, then well talk. He said the president asked them to violate the constitution. He said the president asked him to violate the constitution which is another way of saying that he asked him to write the law. He never said, no, thats wrong, thats wrong. A technical violation of the constitution is not a violation of criminal law. Thats just plain wrong. Barb, what you make of that . Thats just plain wrong. What he just said. Importantly, this is all going to be in a court of law where the judge will instruct a jury on the law, and the parties will hear the actual evidence. Whats charged here is the conspiracy to prop the United States of obstruction of an official proceeding, deprivation of rights. To the extent that he was pressuring mike pence to violate those laws, to violate our fundamental democracy, the lawful transfer of president ial power, its absolutely illegal. This is all in offensive campaign to convince the electorate, but what will happen in court will be very different from what were hearing come out of jungles mouth. Its interesting because theyre also kind of doubling down on this idea, and this is something that i think many of us expect, at this idea of a tenth, right . What theyre jacket as the atteion, the evidence to prove this. It seems like this is mounting and the case. The former president of the United States actually believe that this election was stolen the actions that he carried out leading up to and on january six were because that he believes that this election was stolen. He said it again today on the sunday shows this morning. Does this even matter . Does that, is that even a defense . No, yasmin. It feels like a matter of fact, and a matter of. Law as a matter of fact, this indictment throughout all the ways, every which way to sunday, that donald trump absolutely knew he had lost the election. Everyone told him that, he failed and all of his legal challenges. It feels as a matteroffact, but as you say, it also feels as a matter of law. Even if you think that the ends justify the means, if the means are illegal, it is still a crime. I cannot temper with a witness, and ask them to lie, just because i believe im innocent of the underlying crime. The Witness Tampering is still illegal. Similarly, if donald trump is not using lawful means to challenge what he believes is an unfair election, he had legal means to do that. Whats alleged in this indictment is that he used illegal means. I want to draw a little on this case that we heard from laurel as well, referring to what happened with kennedy back in 1960 in the state of hawaii, right . That was a Court Ordered recount. Theyre kind of pointing to that and saying, listen, look at what kennedy did in 1860. There was a recount in place, they had electors in line, ready to go. Then subsequently, lets just say, after the Court Ordered recounts, before the recount they said nixon was declared the winner at the time. Then subsequently after the recount, it was in fact kennedy who pulled through in the state of hawaii. Im confused as to how there are equating that with what they try to pull off when it came to this elector scheme. Yasmin, this is just a classic case of whataboutism. Just throw it out there, say that the other side was corrupt, therefore you can hold donald trump accountable. Number, when it doesnt matter what has happened in the past. Lots of people get away with filing the law, it does mean you get to violate the. Law the next time you pulled over by a police officer, its not going to work. Regardless of, that its different, but i think that if they just throw it out, there most members of the public are not going to focus on the minutiae, and on the details. They just say, kennedy, hawaii, something, something, something. See, we win. It is all about throwing enough information out there, and then again, one of the real pieces of corruption and the putin regime, another authoritarian regimes, is not to convince you that this candidate is honest. Its to convince you that everybody else is dishonest. If everyone else is dishonest, and everyones corrupt, then this suffers along with and telegraphy. Then you may as will go with the man whos at your back. I want to read for you these legal strategies that have been laid out by the trump team. I want you to weigh in on those. Number one, delay travel until after the 2024 election, then of course, if he were to win the election, he wouldnt pardon himself when it came to these federal offenses. Number, to count on friendly judges to steer things in his favor. It doesnt seem like that is necessarily happen aim, at least not a washington post,. Cedar, three frame every defeat as political vendetta. Something you just pointed out. Then trust the Supreme Court will overturn any given verdicts. Wayne on these for me. I think that the third one is the one that were seen so much of right, now that everything hes doing, hes almost begging the judge into imposing orders against him, so that he will have evidence later to say, looks, she was against me. This post about mike pence, so intimidating, something against someone who will should be a witness. Then what, i gave border . Then what happens if he goes against. Does she gelsolin his running for president . If she does, theyll say, foul. If she doesnt, hell continue to roll with impunity. I think youre right, thats a part of a strategy. Barbara mcquade, looks like you had a green thumb. If he didnt that gardening behind you, its not, mine but i love it. But marco mcquade, thank you. In the next hour, were going to speak with somebody who was a target during the january 6th attack. Congresswoman old harbor omar with her reaction to the indictment. First, were back in 60 seconds. Alaskas historic flooding is causing entire homes, look at that. Look at, that theyll be swept away. This is sparking evacuations in the state capital. Well be right back. T afford essential School Supplies. Subaru and our retailers are there to help by giving millions of dollars in funding along with School Supplies students need. We call it the Subaru Love Promise and we are proud to be the largest corporate supporter of adoptaclassroom. Org. Its just one of the reasons forbes ranked subaru the number one automotive brand for social impact. Subaru. More than a car company. vo Verizon Small Business days are coming. From august 7th to the 13th. Now is the time to partner with our experts. 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All right, lets get to that Breaking News i was just talking about, coming out of alaska. Natures fury unleashed. Watch this. There goes,. Stunning images there to say the least. Unbelievable. An entire home crumbling their. That is just one example of the severe flooding that is devastating parts of juneau. But this is no ordinary flood, by the way. This is Climate Change on full display. Nbcs Priscilla Thompson is tracking it for us. Priscilla, good to talk to you. Thanks for joining us on this. What is going on . Yeah, yasmin, we are seeing major flooding in juneau after the Mendenhall River crested overnight at a Record Setting 14. 9 feet. That is nearly three feet higher than the previous record set. You showed that dramatic video of that Home Collapsing into the river. Officials say there are several homes and trees that have just floated away because of those rushing waters. All of this started on saturday. This flooding began. This happened because of a major release from the Suicide Basin in juneau. We actually have a time lapse where you can see how quickly that water began to go down over the past several days, as it was flooding into the river. And the good news is that now that water is starting to recede, and also officials there have not yet reported any deaths. It may be possible that so far everyone is safe and sound. But of course, there is a lot of structural damage that they are dealing with there. They are not Out Of The Woods just yet, even as that water is receding there is still the risk of erosion. We could see more homes destroyed and more structures destroyed as things continue to settle there in juneau. Talk more about this glacier. Fairly wellknown, i should say, the tourists. Very wellknown, yasmin. Some 700,000 people a year flock to juneau to see this glacier, which is just a few miles from the city, and its one of the only glaciers in the u. S. Where you can stand on the soil and see it from there. But Climate Change has been having a real impact. That glacier has been melting at a higher rate and then the snowfall that would replenish it. Experts are predicting that by 2050, you may not even be able to see that glacier from the tourist center, where so many hundreds of thousands flock to now in order to do that. So lots of but Priscilla Thompson for us, thank you, appreciate it. Coming up, heading overseas. Israeli Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu expressing interest in backing away from part of his plan to overhaul the judicial system. This is coming after months of ongoing protests that have ripped the country apart. Also the questions surrounding the seemingly impending charges in the george ndas case against donald trump. Watch this. Wow. Sweden winds. It all came down to a penalty kick review, but team usa is out at the world cup. My wifes name is joy. Weve been married 45 years. Im taking a twoyear business course. 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