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Who has passed today. Longest serving woman in Senate History leaves behind a legacy as a fierce advocate for gun Safety Measures and equal rights. Also tonight, the consequences of handing over power to the radical fringe of your party. The republican Government Shutdown would all but certain to come this weekend. Plus a Major Development in the plot to overturn trumps Election Loss in georgia. Late today we learned that one of trumps codefendants has agreed to a plea deal. We begin tonight with the essence of maga and the countdown. A little over 24 hours from now, the federal government will likely shut down. That will happen for only one reason, because the fundamental essence of maga. Donald trumps trusted version of republicanism. The chaos and cruelty. Today, in an effort to pass a continuing resolution to keep the government open for one month, failed. It will not surprise you that the people who voted to shut the government down where members of the maga caucus, including insurrectionist andy biggs and paul gosar and matt gaetz and Marjorie Taylor greene and if you want to understand why these House Republicans are doing this, all you need to know is how desperately Kevin Mccarthy wants to keep his precious gavel. And how entertaining it would be for the maga is to take it from him, by forcing him to reopen the government with the help of the only rational people he can find in the house, the democrats, after which the Maga Chaos Caucus can trigger a vote to remove him as speaker. It is so bad that this coming mass is being dubbed the seinfeld shut down, because it would be a shutdown over nothing. We know ahead of this disaster, they marshal the awesome power of the u. S. House of representatives, the seat of our democracy, to hold a six hour impeachment Inquiry Hearing that blew up in their faces. Republicans know the American People dont want their shot down. So instead, republicans on this committee are attempting to distract the American Peoples attention by spending taxpayer dollars on this sham impeachment hearing, two days before they shut the government down, in hopes that the media, and i dont just mean fox news, will fall further scheme. And chairman comer stiffer district, the cut down shutdown of the republicans will cost of his constituents their paychecks. The republican shot shutdown will call 3939 of his constituents their paychecks. Well chairman comer and jordan are punishing those constituents, they have made sure that they and their staff wont have to pay a price. According to reports, they have been working behind the scenes to figure out who will be deemed essential employees. Surprisingly that includes the staffs of their committees. Now members of congress will all be paid, because the constitution says so. To reiterate, these men are republicans, they would rather pursue a quick impeachment inquiry against impeach the president , against whom their own experts, their own witnesses say they have no actual evidence on. They would rather do that and figure out how to pay millions of federal workers and to make sure hundreds of millions of americans get the government assistance, the food assistance, the Government Services they count on. It is cruel. It also makes no political sense. But heres the thing. The Republican Party has spent decades demonizing the federal government and the people who work there, going all the way back to ronald wega ronald reagan, way before maga. These are real people. Families to feel, rent to cover. They are not some monolithic blob of evil deep stagers. They are millions of women who rely on Snap Benefits for groceries and baby formula. They may be turned away from stores as early as next week. Then there are active duty Duty Service Members who will have to report for duty but will not get paid. The board of the republicans claim they care so much about, well, the agents and officers overseeing it will not get paid either, meaning republicans are literally the funding the border. Its also the janitors, who clean the federal buildings. The congressional cafeteria workers who, unlike most furloughed federal workers, will get no pay no back pay as they continue to serve members of congress. Do you worry that you wont be able to pay your bills by the end of the month of congress doesnt act . Oh yeah. Yes. I worry about that. A whole lot. Im trying to make ends meet. So these things like wic me, if they go way a way it puts me in a tough spot. Rob peter to pay paul. What what is this gonna cost Everybody Else . Republican senator Rob Roger Martial Of Kansas said federal employees have incredible pay. They have easy hours. Only affords of them are actually back in the office now. So we all have to, you know, sacrifice. The average pay of the civilian federal employee is roughly 48,000 a year. While members of Congress Paid themselves 174,000 a year. Then theres new york republican congressman brandon williams, a multimillionaire, by the way, who initially said that he wouldnt sacrifice his salary but reversed course when he was slammed for his decision. He did say that these would have to do uncomfortable things in order to reform our country. A, you are welcome. And many of these folks that they are about to hurt also have Student Loans to pay, which theyre gonna have to do while not getting a paycheck during the shutdown, because, thanks to republicans, going all the way to the supreme to block student debt relief, Student Loan Payments start this weekend. These republicans are turning their backs on all of these people. They dont give a dam. They couldnt care less about the people who will be heard because Depreciation Bills are trying to trying to pass would cut by at least 30 Housing Subsidies for the poor, Medical Research and Clinical Trials for cancer, nutrition for pregnant women, head start, the epa, nasa, the Justice Department, toxic waste cleanup, and so much more. A publicans voted for that bill, including the socalled biden republicans, who represent districts that overwhelmingly voted for poet President Biden. Cruelty is the point with maga extremists. And by the way, my angelou said it, and its true. When people show you who they are, believe them the first time. Joining me now, is Congresswoman Summer Lee of pennsylvania, carly, psych editor at large of the bulwark and an msnbc contributor, and sahel comport, nbc reporter and i will start with you. Police tell us what is going on in the mess behind you in that building. Its a chaotic situation here on capitol hill. A House Republican bill crashed earlier today on the floor after 21 republican hardliners voted against their own conservative proposal, even though it included a number of republican priorities, regrouped after a lengthy meeting and it ended without any perceivable path forward and its not at midnight tomorrow and it does not appear to be any way to prevented at this moment. The senate is moving forward slowly, with its own bipartisan bill to fund the government through november 17th. Its expected to pass in the next few days. Meanwhile youve got a lot of House Republicans frustrated with the hardliners who are preventing their bills from moving forward. The question becomes, for them, what are they going to do about it and when democrats are inviting them to do is team up with them to work with democrats on his socalled discharge position, go around speaker mccarthy, find six mccrary republicans to sign that, moving to the floor of the house, and force a vote on it, and thats what congressman Brennan Boyle told me, that republicans can do and move a bill within the next seven legislative days. Meanwhile the house is branding this an extreme republicans shut down and they are saying they support the senate bill, the bipartisan, bill theyre saying the House Republicans are doing is dead on arrival. Broadly, there is a 30,000 point you hear. Weesaw 90s when Ukraine Gingrich and the republicans shut down the government. We saw it a decade ago and ted cruz the republicans tried to defund the aca. That didnt work. Now a new generation republicans take picking a similar fight against democratic president. It looks like they too will have to touch the stove and feel how painful it is before the government can reopen. Solid kapoor, thank you so. Much wave your arms if you see any movement behind you and we will get you back over here to continue talking about this. Thank you, my friend. Much appreciated. Lets go to our other guests. Representative lee, you heard that. Discharge petition, how likely is . It is or talk about that . And democrats prepared to move forward . And when could that even happened . We are hearing talks about many different things. I think democrats are preparing for that this maga republican shutdown is going to go forward and i think that theyre hoping to play chicken with us a bit. Theyre in a game of who is going to blink first as they attempt to push through some of the most extreme things. The Democrats Reg E recognize whats at stake here. Its every day people. What our Caucus Message is is that we arent going to relent, were not going to stay on the side, were not going to accept the ransom and pay the ransom and make American People lose. So they need to come to the table with the deal that they already negotiated themselves, and were prepared to move forward with that. By the way, that was on may 28th. My notes here, from one of my producers, on may 28th Kevin Mccarthy and President Biden made an agreement on a deal to raise the debt ceiling the senate has already passed that. That is what would pass the United States house if Kevin Mccarthy on the floor. Am i wrong about that . Europe you are right. Let me play President Biden. He made a comment on this today. Here he is. The speakers made a terrible bargain. In order to keep the speakership, hes willing to do things, i think he knows very consistent with constitutional processes. Number one. Number two, i think he says that there is a group of maga republicans who genuinely want to have fundamental change in the way the government system works. And that is what worries me the most. This terrible bargain, carly, is that lots of reporting, including politico, youre trying to shut the government down, these maga republicans, because they want to get rid of mccarthy. Theyre going to force him to do what the congresswoman just said, work with democrats to reopen the government. Thats the only way hes going to reopen the government, is with democrats. They even have people in live. In line tom emmer, tom cole, matt gaetz, jody ensign of texas, and by the way, emmer, coal, and arrington all oppose certifying the electoral vote. Theyre all insurrectionists. This is a ploy to hurt people in serious ways financially, make people hungry, and only able to pay rent in their Student Loans just because they are trying to get rid of kevin. Your thoughts. I think you may be giving them too much credit. I dont think they have a plan. I dont think they have an endgame. This is all completely performative. What makes this shut down slightly different from all the other failed shutdowns is it really is about nothing. There is no real public policy. This is all about matt gaetz trying to raise his profile. This is about the entertainment weighing, the bomb throwing wing of the party, empowered by mccarthy, feeling their oats. Theres no way they are going to accomplish anything in an ideological way. I have to say, it is interesting watching republicans eat themselves. You know its really bad when Newt Greenwich is saying, its not. When grinch says its not, they keep moving the goalposts, they keep making agreements are making promises, if they get one concession after another than we keep chain they keep changing their minds and keep voting no. The nihilism is the negativity here and its really whats dominating them. So the question is, and again, Kevin Mccarthy made this inevitable when he empowered, when he empowered one lunatic after another, when he made one concession after another, because he was willing to put the country at risk to keep his speakership, but it is interesting watching, even extreme maga republicans tearing themselves apart, its kind of like waking up and looking around and saying where did all these nuts come from . Where did all these extremists come from . Where did all these people who want to burn everything come from . Kevin mccarthy said its a new thing. Its not a new thing. And he was the one who empowered them. They came from the tea party, and now the new version of the tea party are maga and theyre even worse. Kevin mccarthy, this is when the republicans tried to tell hey, weve already passed it, weve got stuff to fund 70 of the government. The white house responds, so close, the government actually hope this. Helps the things they want to do, congresswoman, they face ruin measure to stop women from getting the abortion pill. They are doing things like saying maybe we should get rid of snap. And that failed. They dont even have serious proposals. Have you seen a serious proposal other than the senates proposal that Kevin Mccarthy already agreed to the could pass the house . I havent seen a serious person over there. No. We have not seen any serious proposals. But what they are doing is something we need to take seriously. When they say that they want to defund Social Security and medicaid, when they want to make it harder for women and birthing people to get abortion care, they knew they mean it. They have said from day one. Everything that they have done so far has been to get us closer to that goal. Yes. Youre right. This is absolutely about their profile. They want people to be on tv. They want to be on fox news. They want the spotlight. But they also dont care if they harm people in the process. They dont care how many folks are injured, how many folks go hungry, how many children go without formula or dont have access to a head start. This isnt a concern for them in this war. Let me play even what they are saying. This is some of their own members reactions to what is happening. It did not go well. Theres only one person to blame for any potential government shut down, and thats matt gates. Youre not a conservative republican. Hes a charlatan. If youre just talking about options and you can get through the senate whats the point . Exactly Charlie Sykes i cant think anything dumber then proposing things they couldnt pass the senate anyway. So even the performative bills there passing are dead on arrival. Theyre wasting time because all they want to do is pretend to impeach joe biden. Yeah. I was wondering whether to say this. I am struck by the stupidity. The stupidity burns here. When you think of what they are doing, as you mentioned before, the ads right themselves. Theyre defunding the military, theyre forcing their District Representatives to vote for these draconian cuts that have no chance. I think the Washington Post in analysis of this found that the Bomb Throwers who are shutting down the government represent 2 of americans are shutting down 100 percent of the proposals to keep the lights on, which tells you something about how isolated they are but again this is the statement that Kevin Mccarthy has made, these are the people he has put into power, and these are the people who are holding him in the entire Country Hostage right now. And we wish that voters would pay more attention to this and vote for a better class of people to represent them. People like councillor lee, making sure people get what they pay for. Thank you congresswoman summerlea, thank you Charlie Sykes. Up, Bill Bondsman scott hall becomes one of trumps first of codefendants to accept a plea. Trump will be attending his Fraud Cryo Trial in new york what starts monday. We will be back when the the reidout continues. T continues. Suddenly lifes feeling a little more automatic. Like doors opening wherever i go. [sound of airplane overhead] even the ground is moving for me yall seeing this . Wild and i dont even have to activate anything. Oooooohhh. Automatic sashimi earn cash back that automatically adjusts to how you spend with the citi custom cash® card. [mind blown explosion noise] we have breaking news tonight in the Georgia Election interference case, with prosecutors obtaining the first plea agreement, with one of the 19 defendants in the r. I. C. O. Case. Scott hall, a Bail Bondsman, part of the group of trump loyalists charged was taking part in efforts to breach Voting Machines in Senate History<\/a> leaves behind a legacy as a fierce advocate for gun Safety Measures<\/a> and equal rights. Also tonight, the consequences of handing over power to the radical fringe of your party. The republican Government Shutdown<\/a> would all but certain to come this weekend. Plus a Major Development<\/a> in the plot to overturn trumps Election Loss<\/a> in georgia. Late today we learned that one of trumps codefendants has agreed to a plea deal. We begin tonight with the essence of maga and the countdown. A little over 24 hours from now, the federal government will likely shut down. That will happen for only one reason, because the fundamental essence of maga. Donald trumps trusted version of republicanism. The chaos and cruelty. Today, in an effort to pass a continuing resolution to keep the government open for one month, failed. It will not surprise you that the people who voted to shut the government down where members of the maga caucus, including insurrectionist andy biggs and paul gosar and matt gaetz and Marjorie Taylor<\/a> greene and if you want to understand why these House Republicans<\/a> are doing this, all you need to know is how desperately Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> wants to keep his precious gavel. And how entertaining it would be for the maga is to take it from him, by forcing him to reopen the government with the help of the only rational people he can find in the house, the democrats, after which the Maga Chaos Caucus<\/a> can trigger a vote to remove him as speaker. It is so bad that this coming mass is being dubbed the seinfeld shut down, because it would be a shutdown over nothing. We know ahead of this disaster, they marshal the awesome power of the u. S. House of representatives, the seat of our democracy, to hold a six hour impeachment Inquiry Hearing<\/a> that blew up in their faces. Republicans know the American People<\/a> dont want their shot down. So instead, republicans on this committee are attempting to distract the American People<\/a>s attention by spending taxpayer dollars on this sham impeachment hearing, two days before they shut the government down, in hopes that the media, and i dont just mean fox news, will fall further scheme. And chairman comer stiffer district, the cut down shutdown of the republicans will cost of his constituents their paychecks. The republican shot shutdown will call 3939 of his constituents their paychecks. Well chairman comer and jordan are punishing those constituents, they have made sure that they and their staff wont have to pay a price. According to reports, they have been working behind the scenes to figure out who will be deemed essential employees. Surprisingly that includes the staffs of their committees. Now members of congress will all be paid, because the constitution says so. To reiterate, these men are republicans, they would rather pursue a quick impeachment inquiry against impeach the president , against whom their own experts, their own witnesses say they have no actual evidence on. They would rather do that and figure out how to pay millions of federal workers and to make sure hundreds of millions of americans get the government assistance, the food assistance, the Government Services<\/a> they count on. It is cruel. It also makes no political sense. But heres the thing. The Republican Party<\/a> has spent decades demonizing the federal government and the people who work there, going all the way back to ronald wega ronald reagan, way before maga. These are real people. Families to feel, rent to cover. They are not some monolithic blob of evil deep stagers. They are millions of women who rely on Snap Benefits<\/a> for groceries and baby formula. They may be turned away from stores as early as next week. Then there are active duty Duty Service Members<\/a> who will have to report for duty but will not get paid. The board of the republicans claim they care so much about, well, the agents and officers overseeing it will not get paid either, meaning republicans are literally the funding the border. Its also the janitors, who clean the federal buildings. The congressional cafeteria workers who, unlike most furloughed federal workers, will get no pay no back pay as they continue to serve members of congress. Do you worry that you wont be able to pay your bills by the end of the month of congress doesnt act . Oh yeah. Yes. I worry about that. A whole lot. Im trying to make ends meet. So these things like wic me, if they go way a way it puts me in a tough spot. Rob peter to pay paul. What what is this gonna cost Everybody Else<\/a> . Republican senator Rob Roger Martial Of Kansas<\/a> said federal employees have incredible pay. They have easy hours. Only affords of them are actually back in the office now. So we all have to, you know, sacrifice. The average pay of the civilian federal employee is roughly 48,000 a year. While members of Congress Paid<\/a> themselves 174,000 a year. Then theres new york republican congressman brandon williams, a multimillionaire, by the way, who initially said that he wouldnt sacrifice his salary but reversed course when he was slammed for his decision. He did say that these would have to do uncomfortable things in order to reform our country. A, you are welcome. And many of these folks that they are about to hurt also have Student Loans<\/a> to pay, which theyre gonna have to do while not getting a paycheck during the shutdown, because, thanks to republicans, going all the way to the supreme to block student debt relief, Student Loan Payments<\/a> start this weekend. These republicans are turning their backs on all of these people. They dont give a dam. They couldnt care less about the people who will be heard because Depreciation Bills<\/a> are trying to trying to pass would cut by at least 30 Housing Subsidies<\/a> for the poor, Medical Research<\/a> and Clinical Trials<\/a> for cancer, nutrition for pregnant women, head start, the epa, nasa, the Justice Department<\/a>, toxic waste cleanup, and so much more. A publicans voted for that bill, including the socalled biden republicans, who represent districts that overwhelmingly voted for poet President Biden<\/a>. Cruelty is the point with maga extremists. And by the way, my angelou said it, and its true. When people show you who they are, believe them the first time. Joining me now, is Congresswoman Summer Lee<\/a> of pennsylvania, carly, psych editor at large of the bulwark and an msnbc contributor, and sahel comport, nbc reporter and i will start with you. Police tell us what is going on in the mess behind you in that building. Its a chaotic situation here on capitol hill. A House Republican<\/a> bill crashed earlier today on the floor after 21 republican hardliners voted against their own conservative proposal, even though it included a number of republican priorities, regrouped after a lengthy meeting and it ended without any perceivable path forward and its not at midnight tomorrow and it does not appear to be any way to prevented at this moment. The senate is moving forward slowly, with its own bipartisan bill to fund the government through november 17th. Its expected to pass in the next few days. Meanwhile youve got a lot of House Republicans<\/a> frustrated with the hardliners who are preventing their bills from moving forward. The question becomes, for them, what are they going to do about it and when democrats are inviting them to do is team up with them to work with democrats on his socalled discharge position, go around speaker mccarthy, find six mccrary republicans to sign that, moving to the floor of the house, and force a vote on it, and thats what congressman Brennan Boyle<\/a> told me, that republicans can do and move a bill within the next seven legislative days. Meanwhile the house is branding this an extreme republicans shut down and they are saying they support the senate bill, the bipartisan, bill theyre saying the House Republicans<\/a> are doing is dead on arrival. Broadly, there is a 30,000 point you hear. Weesaw 90s when Ukraine Gingrich<\/a> and the republicans shut down the government. We saw it a decade ago and ted cruz the republicans tried to defund the aca. That didnt work. Now a new generation republicans take picking a similar fight against democratic president. It looks like they too will have to touch the stove and feel how painful it is before the government can reopen. Solid kapoor, thank you so. Much wave your arms if you see any movement behind you and we will get you back over here to continue talking about this. Thank you, my friend. Much appreciated. Lets go to our other guests. Representative lee, you heard that. Discharge petition, how likely is . It is or talk about that . And democrats prepared to move forward . And when could that even happened . We are hearing talks about many different things. I think democrats are preparing for that this maga republican shutdown is going to go forward and i think that theyre hoping to play chicken with us a bit. Theyre in a game of who is going to blink first as they attempt to push through some of the most extreme things. The Democrats Reg E<\/a> recognize whats at stake here. Its every day people. What our Caucus Message<\/a> is is that we arent going to relent, were not going to stay on the side, were not going to accept the ransom and pay the ransom and make American People<\/a> lose. So they need to come to the table with the deal that they already negotiated themselves, and were prepared to move forward with that. By the way, that was on may 28th. My notes here, from one of my producers, on may 28th Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> and President Biden<\/a> made an agreement on a deal to raise the debt ceiling the senate has already passed that. That is what would pass the United States<\/a> house if Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> on the floor. Am i wrong about that . Europe you are right. Let me play President Biden<\/a>. He made a comment on this today. Here he is. The speakers made a terrible bargain. In order to keep the speakership, hes willing to do things, i think he knows very consistent with constitutional processes. Number one. Number two, i think he says that there is a group of maga republicans who genuinely want to have fundamental change in the way the government system works. And that is what worries me the most. This terrible bargain, carly, is that lots of reporting, including politico, youre trying to shut the government down, these maga republicans, because they want to get rid of mccarthy. Theyre going to force him to do what the congresswoman just said, work with democrats to reopen the government. Thats the only way hes going to reopen the government, is with democrats. They even have people in live. In line tom emmer, tom cole, matt gaetz, jody ensign of texas, and by the way, emmer, coal, and arrington all oppose certifying the electoral vote. Theyre all insurrectionists. This is a ploy to hurt people in serious ways financially, make people hungry, and only able to pay rent in their Student Loans<\/a> just because they are trying to get rid of kevin. Your thoughts. I think you may be giving them too much credit. I dont think they have a plan. I dont think they have an endgame. This is all completely performative. What makes this shut down slightly different from all the other failed shutdowns is it really is about nothing. There is no real public policy. This is all about matt gaetz trying to raise his profile. This is about the entertainment weighing, the bomb throwing wing of the party, empowered by mccarthy, feeling their oats. Theres no way they are going to accomplish anything in an ideological way. I have to say, it is interesting watching republicans eat themselves. You know its really bad when Newt Greenwich<\/a> is saying, its not. When grinch says its not, they keep moving the goalposts, they keep making agreements are making promises, if they get one concession after another than we keep chain they keep changing their minds and keep voting no. The nihilism is the negativity here and its really whats dominating them. So the question is, and again, Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> made this inevitable when he empowered, when he empowered one lunatic after another, when he made one concession after another, because he was willing to put the country at risk to keep his speakership, but it is interesting watching, even extreme maga republicans tearing themselves apart, its kind of like waking up and looking around and saying where did all these nuts come from . Where did all these extremists come from . Where did all these people who want to burn everything come from . Kevin mccarthy said its a new thing. Its not a new thing. And he was the one who empowered them. They came from the tea party, and now the new version of the tea party are maga and theyre even worse. Kevin mccarthy, this is when the republicans tried to tell hey, weve already passed it, weve got stuff to fund 70 of the government. The white house responds, so close, the government actually hope this. Helps the things they want to do, congresswoman, they face ruin measure to stop women from getting the abortion pill. They are doing things like saying maybe we should get rid of snap. And that failed. They dont even have serious proposals. Have you seen a serious proposal other than the senates proposal that Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> already agreed to the could pass the house . I havent seen a serious person over there. No. We have not seen any serious proposals. But what they are doing is something we need to take seriously. When they say that they want to defund Social Security<\/a> and medicaid, when they want to make it harder for women and birthing people to get abortion care, they knew they mean it. They have said from day one. Everything that they have done so far has been to get us closer to that goal. Yes. Youre right. This is absolutely about their profile. They want people to be on tv. They want to be on fox news. They want the spotlight. But they also dont care if they harm people in the process. They dont care how many folks are injured, how many folks go hungry, how many children go without formula or dont have access to a head start. This isnt a concern for them in this war. Let me play even what they are saying. This is some of their own members reactions to what is happening. It did not go well. Theres only one person to blame for any potential government shut down, and thats matt gates. Youre not a conservative republican. Hes a charlatan. If youre just talking about options and you can get through the senate whats the point . Exactly Charlie Sykes<\/a> i cant think anything dumber then proposing things they couldnt pass the senate anyway. So even the performative bills there passing are dead on arrival. Theyre wasting time because all they want to do is pretend to impeach joe biden. Yeah. I was wondering whether to say this. I am struck by the stupidity. The stupidity burns here. When you think of what they are doing, as you mentioned before, the ads right themselves. Theyre defunding the military, theyre forcing their District Representatives<\/a> to vote for these draconian cuts that have no chance. I think the Washington Post<\/a> in analysis of this found that the Bomb Throwers<\/a> who are shutting down the government represent 2 of americans are shutting down 100 percent of the proposals to keep the lights on, which tells you something about how isolated they are but again this is the statement that Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> has made, these are the people he has put into power, and these are the people who are holding him in the entire Country Hostage<\/a> right now. And we wish that voters would pay more attention to this and vote for a better class of people to represent them. People like councillor lee, making sure people get what they pay for. Thank you congresswoman summerlea, thank you Charlie Sykes<\/a>. Up, Bill Bondsman<\/a> scott hall becomes one of trumps first of codefendants to accept a plea. Trump will be attending his Fraud Cryo Trial<\/a> in new york what starts monday. We will be back when the the reidout continues. T continues. Suddenly lifes feeling a little more automatic. Like doors opening wherever i go. [sound of airplane overhead] even the ground is moving for me yall seeing this . Wild and i dont even have to activate anything. Oooooohhh. Automatic sashimi earn cash back that automatically adjusts to how you spend with the citi custom cash\u00ae card. [mind blown explosion noise] we have breaking news tonight in the Georgia Election<\/a> interference case, with prosecutors obtaining the first plea agreement, with one of the 19 defendants in the r. I. C. O. Case. Scott hall, a Bail Bondsman<\/a>, part of the group of trump loyalists charged was taking part in efforts to breach Voting Machines<\/a> in Coffee County<\/a>, georgia, as agreed to plead out. He was first of the 19 to surrender last month. Now he is the first to make a deal. Paul pleaded guilty to five Misdemeanor Counts<\/a> of conspiracy to commit intentional interference with the performance of election duties. As part of his deal, paul was sentenced to five years probation, a 5000 dollar fine, 200 hours of community service, and a ban on holding an Election Administration<\/a> relieve activity. The most valuable part of the deal to d. A. Fani willis maybe this. You understand that conditions of your probation insist that you testify truthfully and any future Court Proceedings<\/a> listed on your which you were charged . Yes maam. Joining me is Charles Coleman<\/a> junior, former brooklyn prosecutor and msnbc analyst. And former District Attorney<\/a> in fulton, georgia. I mean start with you first. This is very significant, because we went through, we went back through the indictment. The first time that scott hall appears in the narrative on the indictment is on page 20, when he is talking with david bossie, apparently out david bossy, apparently a republican mckee mike. He starts placing calls saying that he has been looking into the election and finding interference. He winds up on the phone with differently Boss Or Clark<\/a> the guy that trump wanted macon to the Attorney General<\/a> and discuss the november president ial election. A 63 minute phone call. After which he then as part of the attempt to breach Coffee County<\/a> Voting Systems<\/a> and take the drive so that they can somehow prove that it was election interference, he potentially could implicate a bunch of other people if he testifies truthfully, including the kraken lady. How significant is this . Very, very. Sidney pauls attorneys, im assuming youre a bit nervous this evening, we know from the plea hearing he gave a recorded statement prior to his entry of the plea. We dont know what he said in that recorded statement but we know at the end of it he was given first offender misdemeanors. Significantly, one of the things that they highlighted was that this was not a crime of moral trumpeted and would not be continued considered to be a crime of moral turpitude. If it gets misdemeanors he gets firsthand or stand us and he gets to go about his life out from under this indictment. Significant resolution of the case for him and you have to assume that in exchange for that there was some very valuable information he was able to give to prosecutors. As a prosecutor, Charles Coleman<\/a>, this is what you want, right . Youve got somebody that is a low level player here but not that low level. Hes a Bail Bondsman<\/a> whos got the Phone Numbers<\/a> of david bossie, again, a National Republican<\/a> operative, and jeffrey clark, who is a Justice Department<\/a> guy. So is good lot of peoples Phone Numbers<\/a>. Could you put those four pictures up again . Mr. Hampton who ran Coffee County<\/a> Election Administration<\/a>, Sydney Powell<\/a>, and kathleen latham, one of the fake electors, actually kathy lee them was the one who ran Coffee County<\/a>. Big deal, and how would one use this, charles . Ultimately as a prosecutor your job is to connect the dots for the jury. Thats why fani williss office is going to be doing this. Theyre going to recreate everything that happened in a way that explains to the jury not only how it happened but why it failed, where a failed, and what was intended to do. Who else better than to connect the dots than someone who has actually won on the inside and saw into what was going on a new house being put together . Thats exactly how they would use this type of witness. The type of witness you enjoy having because they actually know because they were a part of it. Of course you have to deal with the idea that this is also that and youre gonna have to explain to the jury from a credibility standpoint, but nonetheless, in terms of everything come together, in a story that makes sense to the jury, having a Codefendant Flip<\/a> even after being indicted is helpful to the prosecution. Could we assume, melissa redmond, that the prosecutor is having similar conversations with someone like Sidney Powell<\/a> whos got one of those early trials . Getting people to plead out, they have to show their evidence. It wouldnt hurt to not have to try all 19 people, now 18. Exactly. And i believe the prosecutors can make that representation to judge mcafee earlier today. That they have not yet made plea offers to Sydney Powell<\/a> or but that doesnt mean they wont do so, where they may do so in the near future. For that reasons. And you could resolve these cases reasonably without pulling up the entire case, i think both sides would want that. Its very Interesting Development<\/a>. Another Interesting Development<\/a> for you, charles, in new york. So we now know donald trump will attend the civil trial against him. He will be there on monday. Nbc news has confirmed that he is expected to be at the trial monday and tuesday, with the departure on wednesday. He shows up and then what . Your guess is good as mine. I dont think its advisable for any client who is a defendant in an action to be president for part of a trial, even if you are campaigning as president of the United States<\/a> of america. What it does to the jury and everyone watching the trial is basically saying, ive got more important things to do then be here. So its not something i would recommend. That being said, the trial is not necessarily going to be in the throes of arguments at this point. Its not going to be in the midst of everything that will go on at its peak. This may be unaffordable gamble. But ultimately i think this is about donald trump the show. He has made a public spectacle around his grapes with the judges in this case and the decisions and rulings made face to face. This is going to be building some huge tremendous showdown, even though if he shows up, when he shows up it will be nothing this is just the judge. They want to be much nicer to him. Charles coleman junior and melissa redmond, thank. You tributes pouring in for Trail Blazing Fence<\/a> senator Diane Feinstein<\/a>. Barbara boxer and president ial historian Michael Beschloss<\/a> join me next. Join me next hi, im jason. Ive lost 228 pounds on golo. Changing your habits is the only way that gets you to lose the weight. And golo is the plan thats going to help you do that. Just take the first step, go to golo. Com. He hits his mark center stage and is crushed by a baby grand piano. Early this morning we lost a youre replacing me . Customize and save with liberty bibberty. He doesnt even have a mustache. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Giant in the senate. Senator Diane Feinstein<\/a> was one of the most amazing people whoever graced the senate, whoever graced the country. Dianne feinstein was generous, she was gracious, she was thoughtful, she was kind. Diane was a trail blazer in her beloved home state of california and our entire nation is better for our dogged determination and diligence. The first woman mayor of San Francisco<\/a> coming into office understand circumstances but leading us with great dignity met, with great effectiveness, and great leadership. She was a historic figure. A trail bright blazer for women, and a great friend. Bipartisan tributes are pouring in for california senator Diane Feinstein<\/a>, who passed away last night at the age of 90. She was the oldest member of the senate, the longest serving female senator, and a trail blazer for women in politics. Feinstein first rose to prominence in 1978, when she was the one who announced the assassinations of San Francisco<\/a> mayor George Moscow<\/a> knee and harvey milk. She then became the first woman mayor of that city before being elected to the u. S. Senate in 1992, the year dubbed the year of the woman. During her time on capitol hill, feinstein was known for being a vocal advocate for gun reform, championing the Assault Weapons<\/a> ban in 1994, and four Leading A Multi Year Review<\/a> of a cia detention and interrogation programs. Recently there have been questions about Feinstein Theater Fitness<\/a> just irv serve after she spent months absent from washington for health reasons, leading to whispers and then outright calls for her resignation. Feinstein refused, remaining on the job until the very end. Casting her final vote in the senate just yesterday morning. Joining me now is former california senator barbara boxer, and Michael Beschloss<\/a>, nbc news president ial historian and friend of the show. Thank you both for being here. I want to go to you first, senator boxer, and allow you to talk about this woman you knew so well. We might have a picture of the two of you. But tell us about Diane Feinstein<\/a>, what she meant to you and to california and the country. Well, there is that famous night when we made history together, the first to women ever elected from a single state to go to the United States<\/a> senate. I want to say right here to you that there were two women who really were responsible for my winning. One was anita hill for her courage in turning the spotlight on the senate and showing that there were two women than out of 100, and Diane Feinstein<\/a>, who took my hand. We remember, we ran the same year, it was unusual, but thats how it went. She could have gone her way because she was so popular. And i was an asterisks at the polls, more liberal in a more centrist state at that time. Yet she said, no, were going to do this together. I want to show you one quick picture, one quick picture. This is what the great Cartoonist Conrad<\/a> did after we got elected. Me [laughter] its one of my favorite things. That is amazing. I love that. Michael beschloss, let me go to you. Were having a week in which the kind of history of me politics in america is confronting the current reality. You have joe biden speaking of john mccain and their bipartisan relationship. They would fight it out and go to dinner and travel together. And then you have this strange shift that the senator is talking about in california, a republican state, state of nixon and reagan and then becomes the state that has two women senators, two women democrats. There is so much change. But you saw the Bipartisan Group<\/a> of senators from the old school hailing her today. Its something you dont see people talking about. People on the other side of the aisle that way. It was like living in the 19th century. To a historian thats a good thing because congress in the 19th century not always but did some good things and there were some relationships across the aisle. I knew Diane Feinstein<\/a> a little bit and i do know how much she respected and admired her beloved mom and im glad youre here tonight to, barbara. What im thinking of is, the founders of the very beginning no Political Parties<\/a> are mentioned in the constitution. They were not thinking in terms of a senate that would have Political Parties<\/a>. They thought there would be senators who would make their own minds, issue by issue, and they would form everchanging coalitions, and they would be very strong advocates for the reviews. And in a way, Diane Feinstein<\/a> was the image of what they were talking about. What its two stories, senator boxer. Its a story of this woman who really was a legendary historic figure in her own right. And then there was that Ginsburg Question<\/a> asked at the end. If you stay too long, did she stay too long . I think there is more on her because there is a sense that she didnt get out of the way. We talked with you about this on this very show. What do you make of that and the fact that now gather newsom, who said on this very show, let me just play him. This is what gather newsom said he was going to do about the open senate seat. If in fact Dianne Feinstein<\/a> were to retire, will your an African American<\/a> woman to restore the seat that Kamala Harris<\/a> is no longer in the United States<\/a> senate, and you have a name in mind . I have multiple names in mind. We have multiple names in line. The answer is yes. So its always politics here. You are the three people running for the seat, adam schiff, katie porter, barbara lee, it seems clear gather newsom is not going to nominate barbara lee. What do you make of what politics left behind in the fact that she did stay so long . When i went to see diane, and after i decided not to run in 2017, she was really mad at me. She said why are you leaving . Youre the chairman of the environment committee. Youre the chair of the ethics committee. And you know how to get things done. Thats the diane, i said diane, i think its time. But she knew her job as a calling. Im just going to say this, its a bit controversial, i think one of the reasons she stayed on is because the republicans said they will not replace her on the judiciary committee, and we all know that that committee is so tight, if she hadnt been there they couldnt have gotten any judge nominees out to be voted on in the senate. So its complicated. Its complicated. But she felt that sense of responsibility to the last minute. My goodness, she voted right before she took her last breath. Thats diane. I dont envy gavin newsom for not being able to figure out what to do because his political future is on the line as well. My last question for you, Michael Beschloss<\/a>. We do have something of a gerontocracy in the United States<\/a>. The average age in the United States<\/a> senate is 64, in the house its 58. A lot more young people in the house. What do you make of the fact that we do have a politics in which people stay and today and stay. The very reluctant to leave . Well the upside is you get people with wisdom and experience, and sure, that was true of diane. But is a product of the politics that we are in now. A politics where if you want to get nominated and elected you have to raise an awful lot of money, you have to be extremely wellknown, you have to have a network. And usually the people who have all of those things are older rather than younger. So its a system right now that works against the idea of young blood coming in, firebrand coming into our system. I hope that part of it changes. Especially in the United States<\/a> senate, as expensive as it is to run from for office. Thank you very much, and Michael Beschloss<\/a>, thank you, my friend, as always. Cheers. Who won the week is still ahead. But first, United Auto Workers<\/a> expand their strikes against to me or automakers, but sparrow third, citing significant progress to their negotiations. All that and more, when we come back. Com back im Jonathan Lawson<\/a> here to tell you about Life Insurance<\/a> through the Colonial Penn<\/a> program. If youre age 50 to 85, and looking to buy Life Insurance<\/a> on a fixed budget, remember the three ps. What are the three ps . The three ps of Life Insurance<\/a> on a fixed budget are price, price, and price. 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They joined more than 18,000 unionized auto workers who are currently on strike. Chryslers parent company, stellantis, the third member of detroits big three was spared additional strikes this week because of recent progress in negotiations with the union. The expanded strike comes days after President Biden<\/a> and donald trump squared off for michigans union vote. With biden addressing a uaw picket line, and Trump Holding<\/a> a rally with suits, and his, fans a nonunion plant the following day. No word on whether any actual Striking Union<\/a> members were there. Joining me is an msnbc political analyst, jay jordan. Comedian and writer for the problem with john stewart. Thank you both for being here. I want to start with you ferdinand, there is one issue that i have with the media. The striking workers piece, i think President Biden<\/a> did himself some good. Im not gonna speak for your political expert here by showing up, but the media has tried to make it look like they both did the same thing. Th is from the new york times. Mr. Bidens campaign released a assailing that stir trump as both the current and former president s traveled separately to michigan to meet with autoworkers. But heres an Organization Called<\/a> more perfect union. They showed up to talk to people who were at trumps thing. Take a look. Look at that. Like where are the Picket Line Signs<\/a> . All i see is trump march. Do you know where auto workers are . Nobody from the uaw . Usa. Usa. Have yall seen any autoworkers . Theyre supposed to be 500 of them, right . What was the point of showing up for a trump rally, ferdinand . I, mean there was no point. Donald trumps cult of personality is always about donald trump. You look at the media, somehow we are supposed to frankly know better. You think its 2015, 2016, and we havent learned our lesson yet of what happens when you present the false equivalencys to try and balance the coverage. I think youre right, i think President Biden<\/a> helped his cause enormously. He did something in american president has never done. Which is cross picket lines in solitary, in support of striking autoworkers. It is clear whos side of the debate President Biden<\/a> is on. But no, i dont think trump helped himself. I think autoworkers saw right through that stunt. And if trump thought he was going to help his cause, in maybe locking down support and michigan through this exercise, i think itll spit fail spectacularly. Again, a lot of this is dependent on making sure, not just this program and others, but the media the detroit news i will point out to show up and talk to people. One individual prather reporting in the crowds held a sign that said Union Members<\/a> for ump acknowledge that she was not a union member, one approached by detroit News Reporter<\/a> after the event. Another person with the sign that read autoworkers for trump that he wasnt in autoworker hi there. Your thoughts jake . First practice i stand in solidarity with all workers, as a member of the wga im just off strike. As a member of saigon still on strike. American workers are being squeezed like a colorado congresswoman in a performance of beetle juice. We cannot let this happen. We have to make sure also that we can compare these two like theyre the same. When he befuddled like mr. Magoos showed up at the wrong place with nonunion workers. Instead they were picketing for the wrong reasons. In his defense, he wouldve said that she had civil rights protesters to though. Firm but fair. Lets go to bob menendez fernand. This is on the democratic signed. Its called on him to step down for being accused of felonies. Heres what is his explanation. He said for 30 years, ive withdrawn thousands of dollars in cash from a personal Savings Account<\/a> which have got for emergencies. Because of the history of my family facing competition in cuba, This Is Money<\/a> drawn from a personal Savings Account<\/a> based on income ive derived over 30 years. That is about the cash stuffed in his pockets. But Senator Menendez<\/a> was born in 1954, five years before fidel castro took over cuba. What do you think of him using his hair to judge the defense . Its very unfortunate, again, theres a lot of people that have experience that trauma of exile. Like you say, many of them in my own family. My grandmother to her tying day kept stacks of bills inside, literally, the mattress. Because she was worried about that. But i think it was important taste at best for Senator Menendez<\/a> to draw that analogy. Most importantly, it fell on deaf ears when it came to his colleagues in the caucus. Prior to that, those remarks, only one democratic senator, senator futterman in pennsylvania called for his resignation. Almost immediately after he made those comments, where he alluded to the cuban issue for the recent he had the cash. He also didnt mention the gold bars by the way. Floodgates open. Over 30 right senators called on his resignation. I dont think it was strategically well done. It certainly didnt pass the mustard with his colleagues. Clearly this has been a major distraction. The consensus is he seems to need to resign. Let me really quickly play, because we are running out of time, this is army general mark milley, who donald trump called for his death this week. Here he was at his Retirement Ceremony<\/a> today. I took an oath to i dont take notes to a tribe, we dont take an oath to our religion, we dont take an oath to a king, or queen, or tyrant, or dictator. We dont take an oath to a want to be dictator. Jay, your thoughts on donald trump saying that that guy ought to be executed. Yeah, i think that President Biden<\/a> does something that his predecessor doesnt do. He listens to his generals. So i think any sort of dustup between people with military experience, and trump, it leads to him being on the side of authoritarians and other countries. Hes like, well actually, russia makes some good points. [laughter] any thoughts on gold bars . On gold bar,s with the menendez situation, as a black queer man, i would never use my ethnicity and My Marginalize<\/a> status as a defense mechanism. There we go. That is, next dont miss it. S, i next dont miss it. The citi custom cash\u00ae card automatically adjusts to earn you more cash back in your top eligible spend category. Hi. You dont have to keep tabs on rotating categories. This is the only rotating i care about. Or activate anything to earn. Your cash back automatically adjusts for you. Can i get a Cucumber Water<\/a> . Earn 5 cash back that automatically adjusts to your top eligible spend category, up to 500 spent each Billing Cycle<\/a> with the citi custom cash\u00ae card. I love it. We made it to friday. Which means its time to play our favorite game. Who won the week . Back with me, my friend, who won the week . Joy, this is always a tough contest, but this week there is no question, we just saw a few minutes ago, general mark milley won the week with what really is a shocking clarity in the countrys military, and calling the former commanderinchief, donald trump, a potentially the future commanderinchief with a reference about his as a punch in the face want to be dictator was scary and necessary. For that alone general mark milley, my winner of the week. He is impressive. He could be an eisenhower if he wanted to get in another feel like politics. Your choice for who won the week . The winner of the week is tim scott, senator tim scott, because he did so bad in the president ial debate that he doesnt have to run anymore. It can go back home to his girlfriend. I think it was a real win for representation. It proved that black people can be stupid as well. Tim scott said that slavery was bad but lbj was worse. [laughter] jay, you know his girlfriend go to another school, heres my pick for who won the week. [laughter] we are here because of matt. Thats what this is about. If they cant save donald trump. Honestly, no one has testified of what crime they believe the president is committed. No evidence of president ial wrongdoing. No rock smoking gun. No gun, no smoke. This is an embarrassment. An embarrassment to the time and people of this country. House democrats won the week. 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