You are watching velshi on msnbc. It is sunday, october 1st. I am Charles Coleman junior, filling in for my friend and colleague, ali velshi. And weve got a lot to talk about. In a surprising turn of events, the federal government will remain open, after Congress Managed to passed a lastminute stopgap measure late last night. Less than just three hours before funding is set to run out, the Senate Overwhelmingly voted in favor of a shorter funding bill that was rushed to the house floor by speaker Kevin Mccarthy earlier in the day. Then, shortly before midnight last night, President Biden signed a Bill Into Law and in a statement, he called the whole episode, quote, a manufactured crisis. Now, this lastminute agreement will keep the government funded, and existing Spending Levels until friday, November 17th. And it authorizes additional money to be set aside for Disaster Relief. However, what it does not do is include funding for ukraine aid. This was a key Sticking Point for democrats. The measure also leaves out funds for border security, which of course was one of republicans top defense. Now, although it is below which unaided in the republicancontrolled house, and was brought to the floor by Speaker Mccarthy, in the end, it was more democrats who voted in favor of it than it was republicans. In fact, democrats in both chambers of congress were nearly unanimous in voting to pass the bill that prevented a Government Shutdown. It once again exposed the disarray among the gop, and leaves very few things unresolved. While it does give congress an extra 45 days to come up with a Funding Agreement financier, we very well could end up back in the same situation in november because of how far apart the different factions of congress remain. And in just the last hour, florida Congressman Matt Gaetz confirmed that he will move forward with a motion to oust Speaker Mccarthy. I do intend to file a motion to vacate against Speaker Mccarthy this week. I think we need to rip off the mandate. I think we need to move on with new leadership that can be trustworthy. New leadership that can be joining me now, nbc news capitol hill correspondent, Julie Tsirkin. And senior politics reporter for axios, eugene scott. Julie, we spent so much time yesterday and this morning, yesterday morning, talking about all of this, watching it happen live, and so much has happened since, including gaetz, whos now saying hes going to move forward with a motion to try and vacate congressman mccarthy. Catch us up. Whats going on on capitol hill . Tell us what you are hearing. Well, because Speaker Mccarthy ended up meeting democrats essentially to come to the rescue and bail him out so that they can pass this 45day clean resolution, to stop the government from shutting down. Now, he is facing a new threat, some from the same person whos been threatening him all along, Congressman Matt Gaetz, who you heard from a couple of minutes ago at the top there, who want to oust him from the Speakership Chair because he needed more democrats to support the bill then republicans who ended up voting for it. Now, Speaker Mccarthy, for his part, just keeps saying, bring it on. Watch this yesterday. If somebody wanting to make Abortion Motion against me, bring it. There has to be an adult in the room. Im gonna govern with what is best for the country. I dont understand how long it will take for you to understand that. I went 15 rounds. To mccarthys credit, he did try to appease the conservative hardliners. Im told he even included Disaster Relief and yesterdays Glean Stopgap Funding Measure to try to appease some of those hardliners, including gaetz, who is from florida, whose own state was hit by Natural Disasters over the last few months. Obviously, you know, more than 100 republicans voting against that clean continuing resolution. For gaetz part, theres no one willing to replace mccarthy at this moment. Hes gonna have to lean on democrats to vote with him for this motion to vacate, to oust mccarthy from the Speakership Chair. Congresswoman alexandra ocasiocortez that this morning she would support that motion. Speaker pelosi on the flip side that democrats would be following leader jeffries lead. And we know mccarthy and jeffries have spoken many times, including just before that continuing resolution hit the floor to try and avert a Government Shutdown. Really, all of this, a live ball. Next week, according to gaetz, we might see that motion finally brought to the floor. It will be interesting to watch how this develops in terms of math gaetz threats to try and ask the speaker, and what actually happens as the negotiations continue with this continuing resolution. Eugene, i want to ask you, what we saw from Mccarthy Yesterday is something that ultimately ended without democrats or republicans getting exactly what is it that they wanted. But the government stayed open. At the same time, Kevin Mccarthy could have brought this to the floor much sooner, and much earlier, to get this done. What do you think will be the political impact . What is the narrative that will emerge around what we saw happen yesterday, particularly as it relates to Kevin Mccarthy . I think the main narrative we are seeing democrats latch on to is pretty similar to that of farright republicans which is that republicans in the house actually do not have leadership in place to lead this country in the direction that is best for most citizens. Theres so many individuals, cafeteria workers, air traffic controllers, scientists, Border Patrol agents who are sitting on pins and needles saturday over an issue that couldve been addressed weeks, if not months, before. And what the democrats are trying to do, as they make a case for their desire to take over the house is explaining to people that they believe that if they were in control, this would not have happened. These issues would have been addressed far in advance. And if we continue to let republicans remain in control, we will find ourselves in this position again in the near future. Now, eugene, i want to stay with you, how do you think the help that he got from democrats, mccarthy that is, helped or hurt his case in terms of remaining in power as a leader . And if matt gaetz is going to move forward in trying to get him out of the speaker seat, do you think that mccarthy is going to get any help from democrats to stay there . Well, it depends on the constituency that mccarthy wants to connect with. Theres a real desire from the American Public for bipartisanship. Polls and surveys repeatedly show that voters want to see republicans and democrats work together. Mccarthy last night, he gave an example of him coming alongside liberals to keep the government open for the best interest of the american people. If he is trying to connect with the base, this doesnt help him, that he is working with Hakeem Jeffries, jamal bowman, all these individuals who are Lightning Rods to the gop base. And we can expect matt gaetz to lean on that as he seeks to move forward with removing mccarthy. They would be very interesting stuff to see this going forward. A lot to talk about. And we are still not done with respect to how we are going to fund our government after November 17th. Well be talking to you, im sure, very soon. That was nbcs Julie Tsirkin and eugene scott from axios. Thank you to you both. And now, joining me in studio is one of my favorites, democratic congressman, gregory of new york. Queens, new york, specifically. He is the Ranking Member on the House Foreign Affairs committee, and a Senior Member of the House Financial Services committee. Congressman, thank you so much for being here. Super excited to see you or talk to you. So, yesterday, big day. Is it a win, a loss, how do you sort of process what we are looking at now as we are, you know, going forward, but also still averting a Government Shutdown . Look, we cant forget how we got here, right . We got here because of a crisis in the Republican Party who wanted to cut 30 of the budget across the board. The day before yesterday. That is what took place. Finally, Speaker Mccarthy decided to do what democrats have been asking all along, to have a clean seat as we continue to discuss whats going on. And basically, what took place, with the exception of ukraine funding, we got a claim cr, which we are asking for. So democrats then were able to keep the government from shutting down. Now, i caution everyone because it is just a 45day period. So, the question is, republicans moved from those drastic cuts that would devastate the American Public to listening and working with democrats so that we can come up finally with a budget that is working for all americans. And so, 45 days, was that a long time . No. And so, weve got to see whether or not the republicans will move from the this Asterisk Proposals that they have been trying to push forward, that led us to the brink. We would not have been to the brink had in fact they have done what we requested all the time, and finally had to relent and do, so that we would not have to shut this government down. Lets talk about this a bit more theres a lot of conversation about what matt gaetz may do in response, in terms of Speaker Mccarthy and moving to oust him. We know that he made all these crazy deals to even get the speakership to begin with. So, he is gaining i think one of the things that people are wondering is what happens if matt gaetz actually does that, and then, there is turmoil, in terms of who the speaker is going to be. We are already seeing a sort of a locking in government already. Is it possible, and im not suggesting that members cant walk and chew gum at the same time, but youve got 45 a clock thats already taking. You are talking about removing the speaker, 15 rounds for the last guy to get in. So, Where Do We Go From Here . And what does the other side of that look like for government . Forget the parties, for government, in terms of being able to function and do the job that you guys are sent there to do. I think it is clear that the republicans cant govern. Weve seen that from the time that they have been in power, from the time that they took 50 in rounds. Now, i agree with matt gaetz and that new leadership that can be trustworthy is needed. So, i think that we need to work with republicans. But all we need is five republicans to vote with me to elect Hakeem Jeffries to be the speaker of the United States congress. You have new leadership that is trustworthy and will be able to deliver and get things done just as we did as democrats with the five majority in the 117th congress. That is the way we can move forward. We have seen, as hakeem has said, that hes willing to work with republicans. And thats why, we were able to avoid a shutdown last night. I think that the American Public should look at this picture and see how we can progress and work together. You have one leader who is not trustworthy, based on his own membership, who is divided, and they are dysfunctional. And you have another who has always kept his word, whos been putting things together. And all we need is five republicans to vote with us to elect Hakeem Jeffries. And we will work together. We wont have a dysfunction that you are seeing now on the republican side. You have been there as long as anyone else. Youve got the political cachet as anyone on the hill. You are as smooth as they come. Im gonna ask you straightup, do you think that you have five votes . Do you think that you have three . Honestly, can you get to five in order to make that a reality . Look, all i know is this this socalled moderates on the republican side, they are upset with whats taking place there. They see dysfunction. If they truly want to make a difference and work for americans as they say, then they should not want to contend to in that kind of confusion and disillusionment, and lets get something done. You said it yourself, charles, that they may not have the ability to elect anyone, anyone. So, i want someone trustworthy. I want someone that is respected. I want someone that wants to work across the iowa. To me, that is Hakeem Jeffries. Lets switch gears for a moment. We knew you have extensive experience with your work on foreign affairs. And one of the things that was left out of the resolution yesterday was aid for ukraine. Thats obviously a big issue for you. Its a big issue for democrats. Number one, i want to know why is this in the most since way possible, so important for you . And then number two, how do you expect those negotiations to go over the next couple of weeks, as we target November 17th as another day to try and make sure that we can fund the government and everything that needs to take place . This world was much smaller than it used to be. We all have to work and cooperate with one another. And the threat that putin has presented to all of us by going into a sovereign property of ukraine, thats a threat to our nato allies, and its a threat to the United States of america. Its a threat to our allies in southeast asia. And we have to be collective together. One of the things that President Biden done was have us work closely together, not in a way that putin thought would not happen, so wed be divided. Now that we are there, we cannot allow the republicans to divide us now. And so, we have got to make sure that we continue funding ukraine. Look, for me, national security, right now, by funding ukraine and those people fighting on their own, all we do is give them the equipment, so they can continue. But if that was a nato ally that was struck, not only would we be funding it with weapons, we would have to put boots on the ground. The most difficult votes that i had to make as a member of congress is determine whether the boots will go on the ground or not. I have to see if we have to go to section five in our nato agreement and put boots on the ground somewhere else, and send our soldiers over there, where we got the brave Men And Women Of Ukraine Fighting for their own independence. And all we have is continue to work with them and give them what they need. Guess what . Its not just the u. S. Alone its doing this. Its all of our allies that are contributing tremendously to this. And that makes us stronger as free, independent, democratic countries. Thats on the line, whether or not our integrity as a country, can they trust us . They seen what trump did, and they can trust him, they cant trust the republicans. Once that line is our state with reference to all of our allies that we work together, because that is tremendously important, and this day and age in which we are now. And mccarthy and others on the republican side, who have said i was in a room with zelenskyy, and they said that they would give him, they told him, we will give you what you need. Now, its time for them to put up, or be quiet. And that democrats take over and do what we need to do for the safety and security of our country. D to do lot of ground cover betw and November 17th, i wish you the best of luck. Congressman gregory meeks, One Of The Best dressed man on the hill and one of the favorite alphas that i have that i know. Still to come on velshi, donald trump is going to come to new york tonight in order to, this week, Attendee Civil Foreign Trial that is being held against him and his organization starting tomorrow. This case is in addition to the four criminal cases against him. But, it uniquely hits at a pillar of his public persona as a businessman. And it just might tell us how tough the teflon don truly is or isnt. Plus, an important psa for tens of millions of americans. That all Student Loan Payments have restarted today. What you need to know about this reset, and how to handle it. Coming up next, on velshi, on msnbc. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. Subways now slicing their deli meats fresh. Thats why theyre proferred ,by this pro who won the superbowl twice. And this pro with the perfect slice. 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