Hill. Kevin mccarthys inability to satisfy his farright members is leading to a move by matt gaetz to take away the gavel. The only way that Kevin Mccarthy as speaker of the house at the end of this coming week as if democrats bail him out. I think they probably. Well bring it on. Lets start governing. If he is upset because he tried to push a shut down, then lets have that fight. President biden speaking a short time ago for the First Time Since the vote with a clear message for republicans in congress. Enough is enough is enough. This is not that complicated. The brinkmanship passed and. There shouldnt be another crisis. So while there is no shot down, there is a crisis coming on two fronts today. You have the covid era subsidies for childcare, they are relieving thousands of families without the money for daycare. Also ending the freeze on Student Loan Repayment payments that threatens to show people back into financial and security if they cant come up with that money. Theyre covering it all. Plus, still trump, expected to start his fraud trial in New York City. Well have a preview of that coming up shortly as well. We want to start this hour on capitol hill, where Speaker Mccarthy is facing farright backlash for funding the government at the very last minute. We are relying on the votes of nearly all democratic members of the house to do so, and this maga House Members want nothing less than to see the title of speaker taking away from mccarthy. Joining me, now Julie Tsirkin is on capitol hill forest. Julie, good to talk to you today. A bit different than yesterday, but nonetheless, things are still happening there today. Talk us through, first and foremost, is backlash that were hearing about with Speaker Mccarthy which we expected. Specifically what we hear about matt gaetz in his motion to vacate. Yasmin, from one battle to the next Speaker Mccarthy. He can catch a break because this morning, less than 12, hours or 24 hours after the house successfully voted on this 45day Continuing Resolution keep the government open, congressman matt gaetz is saying that he is going to bring whats known as the motion to vacate to remove mccarthy from his job because of it as soon as this coming week. The house gets back into session tomorrow. In theory, gaetz could be given the process to do so. Then we havent heard about specific details just yet, as he is still trying to collect those across the aisle, seen if any democrats will join him to make that effort possible. Heres what he had to say earlier today about that. You also hear from Speaker Mccarthy reacting to. That watch. I do intend to file a motion to vacate against Speaker Mccarthy this week. I think that we need to rip off the bandaid, i think we need to move on with new leadership that can be trustworthy. Yes, all survived. This is personal. He pushes to a shut down, even threatening his own district with all the military that would not be page, not because he wants to take this. Motion so be, a lets get on, with a list of governing. Gaetz, for his, part says this is not personal against mccarthy, but gates also led the charge of those hardliners to vote against the more conservative continued resolution that had Border Security provisions, democrats did wants. So while mccarthy is trying to fund the government for a whole year, remember, the work is not over. They also have to pass ukraine aid, Border Security provisions that conservatives. What he will have to do so with the threat of his job taken away from him any day now by gaetz. If you will, Julie Kind Of Walk us through the mechanics, remind viewers of the mechanics of the motion to vacate and how that would actually work. This is a little wonky procedural stuff going on in the house but basically mccarthy made a deal with gates and members of the farright House Freedom caucus to get the gavel in the first place. Any one member could bring up a motion to vacate, triggering a vote on the full house floor to remove mccarthy. They need a majority to make that happen. Thats 2 18 right now. So gaetz is relying on the fact that republicans will join him, democrats will join him, a really tricky procedural motion here. Basically, it gaetz brings us up on the floor, it takes precedence over any other house matter. Meaning they have to bring this up for a vote, whether mccarthy wants it or not. Mccarthy and leadership has about two legislative days to actually schedule that vote. Fun fact for, you the first and only time that this was actually used successfully, it happened in 1910 by Speaker Cannon himself. He tried to do it to prove opposed to progressives. From now until then, we have not seen this ever happen. It would be historic if it does. Well talk about that on the air with us yesterday as well. Julie tsirkin for, us thank you. All right, from the capital, a lot to go to the white house. The president is weighing in a short time ago on the dysfunction of the republicanled house to get that Spending Bill passed. I strongly encourage my republican friends in congress to not wait. Dont waste time like a gentle summer. Pass the budget agreement, under the deal we made a few months ago. Remember, weve got 45 days now until this money runs. Out im going to bring him on who standing by for us at the white house. Monica, we just heard the president s and the last hour or so talking directly to maga republicans. My question is, do you think its actually going to make a difference Going Forward . That is certainly a strategy that the white house has employed here. They were feeling good, they still do, about that kind of approach. Theyre trying to put that kind of pressure on Speaker Mccarthy for making this, quote, terrible by again in the words of President Biden with this conservative hardliners. They feel like that something that contributed directly to this resolution yesterday, that they felt they really wanted to stay out of this, they werent going to try to get in there and negotiate, that this was on the speaker to make this decision, and they were quite pleased with how that played out. At the same, time the president said earlier today that it didnt have to get to this point. A main issue here thats going to be a sticking point, that already has, been will continue to be, is this question of new funding and aid for ukraine. As we, know there are some in the right wing of the party who have put this on the speaker, essential, e to say i dont want that included. There was no new funding in the 45day short term measure that was passed and signed by the president overnight. The president today said that it is essential that this cant be interrupted. Here is a little bit more about how he had that message. Particularly to republicans. I hope my Friends On The Other Side keep their word about support for ukraine. They said they were going to support ukraine in a separate vote. We cannot, under any circumstances, allow americans to be interrupted. I fully expect the speaker to keep his campaign meant to the secure passage and support needed to help ukraine as they defend themselves against brutality. So the question is how this works in terms of the supplemental bill that would be brought to the floor. Is it bottoms zone . Does it have some kind of connection to some potential funding for Border Security, as some republicans have talked about on the sunday shows. Im told, yasmin that the Department Of Defense has run out of a lot of the money that was allotted to go to ukraine. There is still a little bit left over to sustain Battlefield Support over the coming weeks. They will absolutely need to pass a new bill soon in order to keep that up, and thats something this white house has been very passionate about. They obviously dont want to see any kind of delay. So, far the u. S. To send more than 113 Billion Dollars in aid to ukraine for critical security and humanitarian assistance. I just want to remind folks of the latest weve been hearing from Speaker Mccarthy when it comes to aid in ukraine. This is from him. The priority for me is to be able to make sure that ukraine has the weapons they need. Weve got to find a way that we can do this together. Im going to make sure that the weapons are provided for ukraine, but theyre not going to get something package of the border is not secure. Were going have to wait and see how this all plays out. Thats where the priorities are about now. Monica, thank you. Ahead, everyone, im going to be joined by congressman wiley nickel, of north carolina. What needs to be done to avoid a shutdown . This is only bunted 45 days down the road. And then ilhan omar, a member of the budget committee, on what the Shutdown Fight tell us about the republicans hold on this party. We will ask how they stand on a vote to move Kevin Mccarthy as speaker as. Well we are back in 60 seconds with Donald Trump On Trial tomorrow. What to expect with the Civil Fraud Trial underway. The former president is expected in the front row. Well be right back. L be right bk. Ac on your new car . You dont have to take it to the dealer. Bring it to safelite. We do more replacements and recalibrations than anyone else. Customer thank you so much. Tech vo schedule now. Singers safelite repair, safelite replace whenever youre hungry, theres a deal on the subway app. Buy one footlong, get one 50 off in the subway app today. Now thats a deal worth celebrating. 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Suzanne, let me start with you and get your reaction from what we just heard from michael cohen. Do you also expect this to be an excess of 600 million . Oh, god tough question off the top. I really dont know, and she has set the range of 2 50. That sort of whats been in my head. I can tell you that come tomorrow when the trial starts, the main counts, which was fraud, was the most important, the most significant counts. The judge, this is going to be from the bench trial, hes going to be the only one deciding. He has said already that he has made a decision on that. That they are liable on that. The main part of the trial now is going to be to determine exactly what the penalty should be. I think thats what most people are going to be watching for going into the coming weeks. Its where is that number going to land. Its going to hit him hard. Its not going to, i, think come in on the lower end. Sometimes you hear on trials that maximum penalty is 20 years or something, and someone gets a year. Were not looking at the low end. The same judge who decided that he is liable on fraud, which is going to be the main show starting tomorrow, hes already decided that till now be in charge of assessing the penalty. Youve sent this piece to our producers that i thought was fascinating an talking about a 30yea donald trump. Working for his father. There was a quote i wanted to pull from it for folks. Its kind of to understan the and how long this kind ofmp is, behavior and actions have tually gone on for. It reads like this. Criticism of mr. Trump came mostly from bankers, and others in the real estate industry, all of whom are requesting his deals amati they said, but they havent come into been. So far the chie beneficiary of his creativity has been his blic image, another money man much of his influence had with the fact that he was an early financorr of both governor kerry and mayor be, and had a powerful lawyer who we now all know now, and a Public Relations man. In all the reporting that you have done about the former president , especially trump supposing that, what weve read in this piece a profile of the 30yearold donald trump. Put that in perspective for us with this most recent polling. Well, i also just want to say that any other figure that looms large in that period is Donald Trumps father. Donald trump was born into a wealthy family. He went to private schools, he had a show for that would take him to school. And the 1976, the year that that article ran was one of the first times that he put a value on his wealth. He said he was worth 200 million that year. In fact, that was roughly the value of his father. He simply appropriated his. Well we have not seen a tax returns for that year, he made roughly 25,000 that year. His father has made, pretty much four years of his life, every risky took, everybody, talk his father had it covered. You just think that since the 1970s, he has been lying about his wealth. Its gone through things like the famous forbes list. His, wealth his money, his worth, its his kryptonite. That is coming to trial. It is being held to account. Its not just for saying it in a public theater, i take some offense to that,but it is actually, and this, case he is being held to account for subm docents to financial institutions, to inrae companies, to get loans, to get potentially favorable rights. And new york, that is considered a crime. It was an incredible piece to read, kind of taking it back to the former donald trump, and how he was seen here in new york amongst all of the Real Estate Developers as well. I want to bring you in on the conversation here because were looking at this trial here, starting tomorrow. But the ruling on this, there are deciding with the damages are here. The damages will be decided by the judge. This is a judge who has been called deranged, quote unquote, deranged by the former president. What are you going to be watching for . Its not just damages, because the reason the Attorney General is going to trial, and not saying it, one is because she also has charged but the civil world has called a course of action, falsifying business records. Issuing false financial statements, and insurance fraud. So she has to prove by preponderance of the evidence that the Trump Organization did that. If she does, then the judge decide whether or not there will be 200 and 15 million in fines. , sh wants trump and his two defendants, codefendants sons, to be permanently barred from Conducting Business in New York City permanently. D, the Trump Organization for five years, from ever engaging and a real estatesaion, and, forever getting alone in the New York City bank. That is why its going to go to trial, and she didnt say i won last week. If hes criminally barred from doing business in manhattan, what does that mean for the future of the trump Business Dealings . Essentially its over. It will be appealed, so itll take a while, but its over. Also, for his two adult sons who are part of the business. Hes on the witness list, if hes called, will he have to testify, if in fact hedoes testify, can you plead the fifth . He can plead the fifth. It doesnt stop a jury trial, so one could see him wanting to testify and not plead the fifth. He is not going to impress the judge, whatever is going to come out of his mouth. If you pleads the fifth that he didnt testify because his answers would be unfavorable to him, but thats not a jury trial. Its a judge. So the judge is going to give him that instruction. I predict that he probably wont testify because the manhattan d. A. Is also circling around, and is apparently still investigating these very acts. They will use the statements against him, and his sons, if they testify. Suzanne, catherines prediction, there you just heard it. She doesnt think that donald trump is actually going to testify. We know that he doesnt have to be here. Hes choosing to be here. We know now. Hes going to be here for monday and tuesday for this trial. Do you expect him to testify . Youre always asking me for predictions. Well youve been reporting on him for a long time, so i feel like you are the person to go to with that. I can see it going, i dont want to, i, i dont have a strong sense. I can see on one side that he can embrace the theater of, at the politics of bets. Captain made a good point, it is a civil trial so i think the risks are less, there is still a huge risk of testifying. He may just decide to take the fifth. He very much is about impulse, so i maybe wouldnt advise him to do it if i was his counsel, but i can see him doing at. I think the interesting thing, and there was an interview earlier with michael cohen, michael cohen, you know, talked about the possibility of him not even showing up tomorrow. I dont think anything a certain. He decided to c