Ruhle starts now. Hle starts now tonight, history on capitol hill, as Kevin Mccarthy is ousted a Speaker Of The House. The first time this has ever happened. So what happens next . And from speaker to telling donald trump, do not speak, the new gag order against the former president in his civil fraud case. Then, his downfall shocked with the business and political world. Now disgraced crypto king Sam Bankmanfried is getting his day in court. As The 11th Hour gets underway on this tuesday night. Well, have we got one for you tonight. Good evening once, again im stephanie ruhle, and you know we are beginning with the chaos on capitol hill today. Brought on by the house vote to remove Kevin Mccarthy as speaker. Keep in mind, this is the first time in our nations history that a speaker has been voted out of office. I do not regret standing up for governing over grievance, it is my responsibility, it is my job. I do not regret negotiating. Our government is designed to find compromise. I believe i can continue to fight in a different manner. The California Republican had only been on the job for nine difficult months. This afternoon, members from both parties voted to strip him of the gavel. The yays are 2 16, the nays are 2 10. The resolution is adopted without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. We get more now from nbcs on capitol hill. Tonight after a historic vote in the u. S. House, now former speaker Kevin Mccarthy returning to an office that is no longer his. The office of Speaker Of The House of the United States house of representatives is hereby declared a vacant. Acting on a motion by Florida Republican matt gaetz, eight republicans joining with democrats and voting to vacate the position of speaker for the first time ever, following an impassioned for debate. It is disgusting. And as what is disgusting about washington. It is selfish, about four conservative policies, and bad for america. That is why i strongly support speaker Kevin Mccarthy. There is nothing selfish about wanting a Speaker Of The House who tells the truth. North Carolina RepublicanPatrick Mchenry taking over as temporary street or. The chair to close the house and resource subject to a call of the chair. Gaetz declaring victory. It is the benefit of this country that we have a better Speaker Of The House thing Kevin Mccarthy. Kevin mccarthy could not keep his word. While mccarthys allies keep score on the republican revels for the mac its monster week of akin chaos within the Republican Party, and he is doing just that. Unfortunately, the American People are ponds in his narcissistic game of charades. The seat for was planted in january when the Florida Fire Rent was the last republican holdout to oppose making mccarthy speaker. Eventually switching his vote to president on the 15th ballot. After mccarthy worked with democrats to temporarily delay a Government Shutdown this weekend, gaetz vowed to try and remove him, with mccarthy saying today i think matt has planned this all along, no matter what transpired. Projecting confidence even as he arrived for the vote. Look im an optimist that the narrowly divided House Left Manhattan opening with an intervene to save a leader many despise nobody trusts Kevin Mccarthy. Nobody trusts Kevin Mccarthy. Nobody trusts Kevin Mccarthy. Why should we . After two hour meeting, the democratic leader announcing there would stay out of a gop civil war, and vote against mccarthy. Mccarthy says he will not run again for speaker. The house is now in recess. Republican say they will hold a Candidate Form for speaker next tuesday, and then hold an internal election among republicans on wednesday about who they will put forward. With that, lets get smarter with the help of our leadoff panel. We needed a great one tonight. And we see new Senior National political reporter has been under the for the last 15 hours Simone Sanders town said, Vice President harris and host of the Simone Show On Peacock in msnbc. And former republican charlie dent of pennsylvania, you know im going to you first. You saw your fair share of battles when you were on the hill. What is your take on Kevin Mccarthy being ousted, and dont you dare say it was a surprise . It is not a shock. But, what it is, he attempted, Kevin Mccarthy attempted to appease this critics for a long time, when you look at what happened when he became speaker, he accused them on the motion to vacate just one vote. He gives them three seats on the Rules Committee, gabe seats on the appropriations committee. He cut a deal on the debt ceiling, spending agreement, then walked away from it shortly thereafter. He also the Impeachment Inquiry really set off the democrats. So he appeased those guys, these hardliners in order to secure their support. Well, it did not materialize. I always said that x number of votes they sure did, sahel, what are you hearing on the hill tonight . Well sorry, so. Yes, stephanie, republicans are overwhelmed by this. 96 of them as mccarthy correctly pointed out did support him, it was the other 4 are ended up forcing him out. Some were overwhelmed, so mercury eyed, theres no Succession Plan right, now this is they all came in saying they support cover, mccarthy and team matt gates who voted to oust him, they do not have a republicans are an unprecedented place, and as a speaker been ousted, can you bring legislation from the floor, matt and all these questions are being asked not only in the house, side but the senate side. Of course theres a deadline coming up, and mccarthy did ultimately have a choice, stephanie, we have been reporting this for sometime now. He could keep the government, open or keep his job. In the final hours to decide who is going to keep the government open and risks job. They ended up hanging him for it. Hold on a minute. He kept the government open, he did, but for the matt gaetz of the world to even imply he sided with democrats, on sunday, morning he went on national tv and lie to the American People, and said this is not done yet, it is democrats fault. There is no way they were going to take that sitting down, and say the government open. Yes, it was a very strange turn of events. If you remember right after the government was kept open, what after the house, passed a continuing resolution, speaker mccarthys first comments were about hunter biden, cafe milano, and joe biden. It was very convoluted and disconnected from the reality that we all just witnessed. I spoke with a number of members of Congress Democratic members of Congress Today and they all noted that video of speaker mccarthys interview on The Sunday Show with Margaret Brennan on Sunday Morning was the nail in the coffin for them. Now frankly i dont know why any of us could even suggest to democrats that, why are Democrats Montour to save, mccarthy because if the shoe were on the other, foot there would be no way republicans would interfere in House Democratic caucus business to save a leader jeffries, or previously as speaker pelosi. And i think sahel had the tweet of the day actually, where he tweeted and underscored that speaker nancy pelosi, when she was, speaker had the exact same very slim margin that mccarthy did. For all the that a number of progressives to privately, nothing like this ever happened while she was Speaker Of The House. And we hear all the time the far right far left, but even the most progressive members of congress, simone, they can point to anything they are simply trying to blow up the system, cause chaos, bedlam, or paralysis, which is exactly why the house is right now. Absolutely. You know, stephanie, we talk about American Politics being factored, American Politics is broken, congress is broken, i dont think congress is broken or even American Politics is broken. Maybe you know it is the former political staffer in me. It seems to me right now, the Republican Party apparatus is broken. And we are at an inflection point, we often talk about inflection points. The Republican Party apparatus is at an inflection point. They are going to have to figure out who they want to be, and how they want to govern if it is even possible. Today, in the last couple weeks or any indication, when you have republicans do better in the minority the majority, they are better at complaining and causing chaos and governing, that is saying something. I think we should all pay attention. You said it a moment ago, it took 15 votes for him to get this gig. He soon after turn over the january six tapes to tucker carlson, much to the dismay of capitol police, and use the one who agreed to the set of rules that got him ousted just two weeks ago. He turned down president s to lynskey who just wanted to address congress. Mccarthy is responsible for booting muddled the tech to us. What is his legacy . Well, i have known kevin a long time, he fell into this trap of feeling that he had to try to accommodate theirs enemies in many cases, and there is a nihilistic wing in the party that wants to tear it all down, they dont have an affirmative sense of governance. They dont have any plans a state of west, monee rather be in the minority, it is easier to vote no, and that is the mistake that he made, and to a lesser extent do not deal with that group, they ignore them, and that is how we can marginalize them and do not try to make concessions. That is a speakers committee. You cant get your agenda done if the company does not know what the speaker, once and you put people in a critical appropriations, same thing. And i served on the appropriations committee, i watched all of this. It has not changed. It has been going on it has only gotten worse because the margin is smaller, and theyre frankly more of these exotic members who are way out there on the fringe, they are not really people keep calling them conservatives, theyre actually populist. When you close your eyes and think what a conservative is, and then you think about how lauren boebert, matt gaetz, and Marjorie Taylor greene conduct themselves, theres the word conservative hunter your mind . No, but there is a Strong Majority in both the house, and the senate to find the ukrainian war effort. So how can this group dictate to the majority, and we have a ukraine is going to be funded. But they are trying to accommodate these people who want a pelosi outcome. That is undemocratic by the way. How can a small minority insist on an outcome when they keep losing the vote. And with the former speaker in this case should not try to accommodate them. I think that has been part of the problem. They just keep trying to take care of people who have no interest. He tried to accommodate them, and i want to go back to what we were saying, before and then he went on television and lied about democrats. Watch this. I wasnt sure it was going to pass, you want to know, white because the democrats try to do everything they cannot to let it pass. The democrats stick together, but they did not want the bill. They did not they were willing to let government shut down for a military not to be paid. For facts sake, 209 democrats and 129 republicans voted for that bill. On what planet was he living thinking that he could say that on national tv, and then democrats would be there for him in his time of need . It was three days ago. So this is a really important point stephanie, and you know who else watch that clip, democrats in their caucus meeting this morning. We are told by sources, that exact clip was played, and emerging from that conference meeting, Gerry Connolly of virginia said it was the stupidest Thing Mccarthy could have done on the eve of a vote where they are or democrats genuinely on the fence. It always seemed a bit out there, this idea that democrats but some of them genuinely were on the fence because they did not want to be seen as speaker simply for keeping the government open on a clean basis. Him attacking them like that did not help. You know what else did not help . A number of things in my conversations with democrats that pushed them to side with the republicans on top of mccarthy. The fact that he reneged on the two year budget, deal the fact that he unilaterally launched an Impeachment Inquiry into President Biden without having evidence of wrongdoing, after he said he would with a house vote turning the normally bipartisan defense bill into a partisan warfare and the other aspect, was centrist members, the Swing District Members who would be the most likely to cast votes or at least see some advantage to rescue him, he was just going to turn around and using multi Million Dollar war chest to defeat them in the next election. So this whole Incentive Structure did not work. Theres maybe an alternate reality or mccarthy ands up catering to the hardline members working with democrats on some sort of a cross Party Coalition as charlie was suggesting there. That did not happen. If that did happen, maybe democrats would have rescued him. But their advantage now is that all right, well lets talk about this alternate reality that might actually be a possibility as crazy as it sounds, charlie. Is there any scenario, we realize how divided and fired up people are, is there any scenario because there is no clear person, no clear republican who has the votes to become the next speaker i cant believe im saying, this bit of some sort of Power Sharing Agreement between the two parties, some scenario because right now i did not see who can get the votes from the Republican Party. If no House Republican can get 218 votes from republicans for speakership, and they will be forced into a Power Sharing Agreement. Some states have done, this texas did it. I remember pennsylvania did it. We had a republican as the speaker with a democratic majority. Democrats could not rally around somebody. Texas saying they should have extreme republicans and more moderate republicans or pragmatic republican said to you deal with the democrats. So we have it done in congress. It could be done. How you would separate the committees, who would control which ones, these are all questions that we have never really dealt with before. But if you cant get 218 votes, you have to elect a speaker, so they will need some democrats at some point. I suspect republicans will rally around somebody whether mchenry, or coal, or am, or somebody. I think they probably will. But it will go through several rounds before they get their. Simone, what do you think happens next . I think that democrats will band together behind leader Hakeem Jeffries and we will see a repeat of what we saw in january, where democrats repeatedly vote in support of Hakeem Jeffries as their leader, and if republicans go through a number of ballots until they can coalesce around one particular person that is a republican. Let me just say this though, a number of democratic members of congress, and frankly this is what im hearing from folks at the white house and aids on the hill, the concern here about speaker mccarthy, and other republicans is can they be trusted to keep their word in congress, and frankly in politics . Really, it is a trust game. It is a chess game. You make promises, and to deliver on those promises. Cutting a deal is nothing but a Handshake Agreement that says i will do, this you will do that, and we will meet in the middle. This Republican House majority has not been trusted to keep their promises. When you have President Biden coming out over the weekend, saying hey, you have to stop this, stop this chaos. But when you say you are going to do something, you need to do it. Joe biden was at his wits and, and i think that is very emblematic of how a number of democratic members of congress feel. So for that reason alone i do not think you are going to see democrats extending themselves in any way shape or form. Where democrats used to be in disarray, they are on one accord, and you have conservatives in the House Republican caucus in chaos. They a