A documentary about his experience in ukraine, which brings you inside the kind of news we heard today, which was this horrible Vladimir Putin setting another record for killing civilians in ukraine today. Sean penn has been there after those kinds of stories, as gonna show us and tell us what thats like. Thats really very, im eager to see that lawrence, really important stuff to cover. They were doing that thanks, alex. Thank you. Well be Breaking Incriminating news of the night about defendant Donald J Trump, is that he revealed Nuclear Secrets to an australian billionaire who purchased his access to donald trump while donald trump was president. Donald trump is the only president in history who publicly put a price tag on physical access to him with the price paid for that access going straight into his own pocket not his campaign australian billionaire Anthony Pratte decided to pay that price. For access to the president of the United States, by buying a membership at the Maralago Club that donald trump runs at his florida residence, because he could not afford the home without the income from the club. The australian billionaire bought that access only after donald trump became president , and he got exactly what he wanted at the club. Which was frequent contact with donald trump, including having dinner with the then president of the United States, the New York Times reporting tonight, shortly after he left office, former president Donald J Trump shared apparently Classified Information about American Nuclear submarines with an australian businessmen during an evening of conversation at maralago, his private club and residents in florida, according to two people familiar with the matter. According to another person familiar with the matter, mr. Pratte is now among more than 80 people whom prosecutors have identified as possible witnesses who could testify against mr. Trump at the classified documents trial, which is scheduled to start in may, in Federal District court, in florida. The account that mr. Trump discussed some of the countrys most sensitive Nuclear Secrets with him in a cavalier fashion could help prosecutors establish that the former president had a long habit of recklessly handling Classified Information. In the existence of the testimony about the conversation underscores how much Additional Information the special Prosecutors Office may have amassed out of the publics view. The secrets that donald trump revealed to the australian billionaire about the United States navy submarines, including, quote, how many Nuclear Warheads the vessels carried and how close they could get to their russian counterparts without being detected. Donald trump has had no access to additional Classified Information since leaving the presidency. Because of this. I just think that there is no need for him to have that Intelligence Briefing. What value is giving him in his Intelligence Briefing . What impact does he have it all, other than the fact he might slip and Say Something. We have entered the dismissal in the late stage of the trump prosecutions with Criminal Defense Lawyers doing what Criminal Defense Lawyers almost always do, ask for dismissals and ask for delays. Motions to dismiss in criminal cases are Standard Defense procedure, that really work. Motions to delay the cases are also standard procedure, and do work more frequently. Today, at 8 30 a. M. , trump Criminal Defense Lawyers asked their favorite judge, Aileen Mercedes cannon, who was appointed by donald trump to delay the trial, in the classified documents case six months so that it wouldnt begin before november of next year. That would get the trial to start after the president ial election. At 10 45 a. M. , Donald TrumpsGeorgia Codefendant, david schaffer, adopted codefendant, kenneth chesebros motion to dismiss. At 11 20, 90 am, Georgia Codefendant sydney powell filed a reply to the prosecutions response to a motion to dismiss. At two pm, donald trump moved to dismiss jack smiths washington d. C. Prosecution for crimes leading up to and on january 6th. At 2 13 pm, Georgia Codefendant, robert cheeley, filed a motion to dismiss the charges against him. At four pm, donald trump filed a motion to dismiss the criminal charges against him in manhattan for business fraud. In payoffs to porn star, stormy daniels. At 5 15 pm, georgia judge scott mcafee held a hearing on motions to dismiss by codefendant sydney powell, and indicated that a dismissal would be unlikely. Leading off our discussion tonight, barbara mcquade. Former u. S. Attorney and Law Professor at the university of michigan law school. Glenn kirschner, a former federal prosecutor, and host of the Justice Matters podcast. Both are and msnbc legal analyst. And bradley moss is with us, a National Security attorney who represents people who work the intelligence community. Bradley moss, let me begin with you on this Breaking News of this hour. About donald trump verbally, apparently, sharing Nuclear Submarine secrets with an australian, who then told approximately 80 people, according to the followup reporting on how many people this person told. Just an endless stream of people kept hearing about. Just from that one source. What does this do to the prosecution of donald trump in florida, if anything . It certainly expect to see stories like this played out as facts witness. Just reestablish a pattern of conduct by donald trump how loose his bronze lips were with respect to Classified Information. Particularly, after he left the presidency. The extent to which he had no respect for the safeguarding of the Classified Information, to which he had been privy well president. In terms of the larger idea, this is why we were always so terrified about maralago and bedminster existing the way they were throughout the trump presidency. They were counterintelligence nightmares. They were the things that keep Security Officials up at night. The idea that these various individuals from foreign countries, with what artillery or motives they might have, could just buy axes to donald trump for whatever, 20,000 a year. And donald trump loves to talk. He loves to brag. And this is what they were worried about all that time. Barbara mcquade, theres additional witness to this who worked at maralago, who heard this kind of talk from donald trump, was very troubled by it. The idea that russians could find out this way how close u. S. Submarines can get to them undetected, its a Pretty Simple root for maralago to russian intelligence. Absolutely, lawrence. In fact, if these allegations are true, it is itself a separate crime. I dont know that well see a separate crime charge, just because it can be difficult to prove crimes that are based solely on Oral Communications. Just because Human Memories are fallible, sometimes people misstate or misunderstand things. But the fact that this australian businessman says how troubled he was, theres another witness who says they heard it, it does demonstrate that this is an accurate statement. Also, the danger that it poses. Its not just a technical violation of the law, it is one that undermined the National Security of our country. Frankly, as someone once said, donald trump is a walking National Security risk. He, as former president , has a lot of really valuable information in his head. Most president s are loyal enough to the country, not to disclose them to people on authorized to receive that information. With donald trump, weve seen it with the documents, and now, it seems like were hearing with the Oral Communications as well. Glenn kirschner, this takes us back to the president ial transition from the Obama Presidency to the trump presidency. Where there was a lot of discussion about how can the president run a business several different kinds of business. How can a president run a business like maralago, where people can simply buy a membership to get access to that place, to that present. Its exactly what we have here. This guy had no interest in maralago, until donald trump was president. Then he decided to buy that membership. So we could get that access. And it turns out, obtain Nuclear Secrets. Lawrence, donald trump has never been in the presidency for the good of the people, for the security of the nation. For the health and wellbeing of our military members. He has always been in it for himself. What he can get out of it. And i dont know how many times, and in how many ways, were gonna have that thrown in our face. Before we start to see some real accountability. Dont get me wrong, for criminal indictments, to state into federal, are a good start. But theyre only a start. We have continued to let him, when i say, we, i mean the institutions of government. Have continued to let him in danger witnesses, judges, jurors, their family members. And it finally, took a state court judge, judge arthur engoron, to step up and say, enough is enough. Whereas, i was thrilled to see the judge and barren issue a partial gag order to help protect his court staff. You know, shouldnt we be in the business of protecting everybody, witnesses, jurors, judges, prosecutors, and others against Donald Trumps dangerous rhetoric . Not when it just happens to be someone very close to us, like our court staff. So, i mean, the danger that donald trump continues to pose to this country, to our military members, to foreign countries, as, i think, exemplified by this new unfathomable reporting about him sharing Nuclear Secrets cant be overstated. Bradley moss, donald trump is now seeking a delay, just past the election on the case involving these classified documents and Classified Information. The violation of the Espionage Act And Obstruction Of Justice case in florida. What do you make of that request for that delay, which of course, jack smith is opposing . Yeah, its a very slow attempt on his part. I dont think he expects to actually get pushed off the full six months. His goal here is, can i get a little bit. Can i get something, just to delay it enough that it continues to push it closer and closer, so that depending on what appeals i have, have any immediate pretrial motions, it makes it more and more unlikely that this makes it to trial, or at least completes trial before the election. What you get closer to the election, theres gonna be a lot of pressure to shut down the criminal proceeding. Lest it really be him seeing sitting in a courtroom in october of 2024. Instead of sitting on the campaign trail. Thats his goal here. I dont expect judge cannon, you know, for all the concerns weve had about her, i dont expect or to really grant some extensive extension here. But i do see her taking her sweet time, possibly, to get her on deciding on what she wants to do, and maybe giving him a little bit more slack than he should be given at this point . Barbara mcquade, this is a standard stage of criminal procedure. Defense motions to dismiss, Defense Motions to delay. In this case, the trump lawyer saying, we havent had enough time with a classified documents and theres no facility in florida where we could adequately examine the classified documents yet. Therefore, we must have italy. What are you seeing in the Dismissal Motions that might have merits, if anything . Nothing really, lawrence, concerns me right now. A couple of Dismissal Motions filed by donald trump. One based on this double jeopardy idea, that the fact that he was not convicted of in his Impeachment Hearing by the senate, that somehow precludes criminal prosecution. I dont see that one going anywhere. Those are different entities. Different branches of government. We very different functions in purposes. Hes got another one that says that, because he was president of the United States, hes immune from criminal prosecution. Again, i dont see this one surviving. Thats because, although the president does have broad powers to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, under the constitution, and even though the president does enjoy immunity, for actions that he takes within the official scope of his office, the allegations about what he did in this election is outside of that scope. Interfering with the state elections is not part of his federal duties. The president has no role to play in the elections, that belongs to the states. In fact, i think its more accurate to characterize what he was doing in the alleged conduct in the indictments was campaigning, and not governing. So, i dont think that motion is going anywhere either. Glenn kirschner, President Ford and president nixon, if they were alive, would be fascinated by the idea of president ial immunity. Jerry ford would want to know, well, why did i have to issue a pardon to Richard Nixon after he was president . A pardon that may have cost gerald for the next president ial election. Yeah, lawrence, absolutely. This is, in essence, the defense filing a motion that says, if the president doesnt, its not illegal. In my friend barb is so much more tactful than i am. I agree with everything she said about this frivolous Defense Motion to dismiss, when i was reading it earlier today, lawrence, ill tell you. If there were people sitting around me, and they listened closely, they could probably hear some of my brain cells dying and hitting the floor. I mean, the arguments were just that bed. Particularly, the contorted interpretations of the impeachment clause. I cant wait to read the reply from jack smiths prosecutors, because if their early responses to similarly frivolous motions are any indication, its going to be some really good reading. Barbara mcquade, glenn kirschner, bradley moss, thank you all for starting off our discussion tonight. Thank you. Thank you. Coming up, just over an hour ago, donald trump dropped a lawsuit that he filed in april, because he was afraid of being forced to testify under oath in that lawsuit, in a deposition, next week. And the fourth day of the civil fraud case against donald trump in a New York City courtroom, much smoother today, without donald trump in the room. Thats next. On the civil side of Donald Trumps troubled life. He dropped his lawsuit against if you want to lower stroke risk from afib not caused by a heart valve problem, theres a better treatment than warfarin. Eliquis. 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