My pillow one of the Fastest Growing companies in america. Hitch your wagon to trump and you end up on the trash heap or the my pillow guy now says hes broke and cant afford his lawyers anymore. Then you have Kevin Mccarthy who groveled at trumps feet, and has next to nothing to show for it except humiliation and no speakers gavel. And my friend allie joins Me Tonight On Banned Books Week and why he takes a stand every week against the epidemic of book banning in this country. We begin tonight with the increasingly dangerous rhetoric coming out of the american right. On Thursday Fox Great Garfield went on the air and said this. We had a war over slavery. We knew slavery was inhumane and immoral but somehow we couldnt solve slavery peacefully. It was an evil but one side refused to acknowledge that it was evil because it was too big of an admission for them to make. Doesnt that feel that way now . That this defined refusal to reverse this decline argues against the survival of a country. What does that leave you with . It leaves you that you need to bring war to make peace and you have a side that Cannot Change because then that means an admission that their beliefs have been corrupt all the time. So in a way, you have to force them to surrender. Make love not war. I tried that once. Elections dont work, we know that. Just stop for a second and think about what he just told aliens of americans. This country needs war to bring peace because you have a side that Cannot Change, you have to force them to surrender. And he couched his little rant in the civil war, a war where they shot and killed you s troops and declared war on the United States for the purpose of keeping millions of people in bondage. What are you suggesting, greg . In addition to civil war it sounds like you are calling for an end to elections and then what . Are you calling for violence against democrats until they bend the knee and what happens next . Do you militarize democratic states and cities enforce the 84 Million People who voted for President Biden and the majority of americans who want women to on their own bodies and gun reform and Police Reform and to save the climate and the people that them live their lives, that majority, will they have to live under armed occupation . This is the madness that is being broadcast to millions of americans on one of foxs most popular shows. Apparently with the full support of rupert and locklin murdoch. To be clear, no normal news network would allow that to be said on air. You can say it on fox. I should note, we reached out to fox, but we did not receive a response in regard to whether or not this would this is acceptable. The same day that greg was calling for a new civil war, we learned a man was arrested in madison, wisconsin because he illegally brought a loaded handgun into the wisconsin capital, demanding to see democratic governor tony e verse then after posting bail he returned to the capital with an assault rifle. Fortunately the governor was not there. Less fortunate is the indigenous justice activist who was shot in the chest last week i a man wearing a make America Great again hat, during a protest against the reinstallation of a statue honoring a spanish conquistador in new mexico. According to the affidavit, the perpetrator was smiling and laughing during an interview with investigators. These are two recent examples but in the age of trump, weve seen a long list of violent attacks. From the antisemitic Terrorist Attack that took place at The Tree Of Life synagogue in pittsburgh, the deadly stabbing of sibley, a black man who was murdered for dancing with friends at a New York City gas station. To the deadly massacre at an el paso walmart, where the gunman said, quote, he said it was a response to the hispanic invasion of texas. Mirroring reddick rhetoric that continues to be used by political figures and of course theres the assault on our capitol, when thousands of Trump Supporters stormed congress, Assaulted Police and look to lynch elected officials including the speaker of the house and the Vice President of the United States for the crime of certifying an election that was over according to the u. S. Constitution. The list goes on and on and on. And despite all of these events, republican rhetoric remains authoritarian and violent because that is what their leader does. General millie, what he did is treasonous. If you look at what he said about china, hes either stupid or its treason. What he said to china should never be allowed. Never be allowed in our country. If you rob a store, you can fully expect to be shot as you are leaving the shore. Shot. We will take on the ultra wet left wing losers and those who are devouring the state. Weve never seen anything like whats happening in washington. I think we have to take it over, take over management of our capitol. Nobody has ever seen anything like we are witnessing right now. It is a very sad thing for our country. Its poisoning the blood of our country. Its so bad, and people are coming in with disease. Poisoning the blood of our country. No republicans have taking taken any meaningful steps to criticize their leader or demand he rain in this dangerous herbage, those who do like liz cheney or mitt romney, are immediately and quickly rejected by the party that they belong to. Far longer than donald trump did. Joining me now is olivia troy, former Homeland Security and counterterrorism advisor to Vice President pence, and ruth, process of history at New York University and author of strongman, mussolini to the president. Olivia, i will start with you. This is not new rhetoric for the far right, whats new is the Republican Party is in on the game from donald trump down. I want to play for you someone who used to work for donald trump, named steve bennett, he was trumps advisor on his campaign and then he was a white house advisor. This man worked in the white house. Here he is talking about our Attorney General and keeping the violent rhetoric going. Your day is coming, dude, after january of 2025. When we go back over this whole illegitimate regime, and we get into the receipts. He should be imprisoned for the rest of his life. And my god if we do our job after we win, he will be in prison for the rest of his life. The rhetoric now is civil war per fox, and imprisoning the Attorney General, per steve bennett, your thoughts . I feel like this is incredibly dangerous across the board and i to be clear about something, its not just people like steve bannon who are out there, Radicalizing Americans every single day on the exterior, then youve got trump going out there, repeating some of the same rhetoric that he used in 2015. He then went on to attempt to implement some of these actions that he spoke about on the campaign while doing policy as president. This is a man who said he wanted to shoot immigrants coming into our country. This is the man who wanted to shoot people during the black lives matter protests. Thats not hyperbole. I was in those meetings when he said it. So when they talk about these things externally, these are the things they plan to carry out. And i will point to one thing, just look at the heritage foundations project 2025, where they are looking at clearing out the government, where there are over 70 organizations that are a part of this Rock Coalition of conservatives and i say that because these are more extreme positions that are happening out there. So when you look at whats happening in this machine of propaganda and you look at the potential of what is being planned out. Should someone like trump implement this agenda again, it should be returned to office within the government and whats happening here. This is where it gets incredibly dangerous at the intersection of all of this. I want to go back for a second to greg hatfield, he lives in some sort of a penthouse in manhattan, he will be out there shooting anyone, he will be on his yacht or whatever, hes like a tucker carlson, they are playing at and cosplaying like tough guys but just look go back and look what he said, he means republicans cant win elections, when they say they would like to been abortions, even in red states, they cant win elections when it comes to things like gun reform, they have to gerrymander, the positions he wants to now solve, by having a civil war and forcing the majority to anthony, to do what he says, women to give birth because he says and all of us to live the way they say, what hes saying is, they are the confederacy in this scenario. What do you make of the fact that that is allowed to be said. We couldnt say it here, i would be fired so fast, i couldnt even clear my office out but on fox you can say that and everyone chortles along and no one in management does anything. We couldnt even get a response, your thoughts . They are saying that because its part of a, trump himself has been engaged in and informational war and psychological, to change americas ideal of violence that violence being something repugnant to it being something that is necessary as a way to solve differences. As for the elections, you know, i go beyond, its not just that you are saying they cant win elections, the endgame of election denial is not claiming that this or that election was corrupt its that we shouldnt have elections at all. That elections should not be the way we decide. And so, violence and getting rid of elections, this is the mentality of a coup, we had a coup, and its also not just fox, matt gaetz showed up at the Iowa State Fair and everyone is munching their corn dogs and he says, hes there to support trump, and he says, only through force will we bring change to washington, d. C. , and i hear that, are you saying, okay, elections dont work, in his own way, we are not going to use reform or legislation, we will use violence. This message is being repeated in the party, in the media, and all the other kind of sectors and think takes thanks, this is an overwhelming kind of influence and psychological Welfare Campaign designed to create an appetite for americans for some kind of authoritarian rule. Elections are an inefficient way to get what the minority once. To that point, will bunch is a great writer in the Philadelphia Inquirer wrote, its about this idea of a red caesar. America needs to talk about the Rights Red Caesar plan for u. S. Dictatorship, now that dannons craziness is here. The Phony Intellects Of Trump Ism at hills there or claremont are seizing the opportunity to make their case for the red caesar to bring about the national rebirth. Ruth, talk about that. You just mentioned it, this is what your book is about, the idea that we dont need elections anymore if we just install this red caesar. This the authoritarian playbook. Its terrifying and by the way, among the people who said that we need war to have peace, thats mussolini. And mussolini also talked about people coming over the border, bringing marxism and disease, as did hitler, there are so many different directions, this is designed to have some kind of Strongman Figure that will make everything right, its converging, and thats why there is an uptick, thats why trump is talking so often about violence because thats an integral part of it. Its really disturbing and as somebody who wrote a book on this and how democracies are destroyed, its very sad for me as a first generation american to see this happening here. Same. And olivia, you worked for a gentleman, mike pence, who doesnt even talk about this. He will talk about it a little bit but hes running for president almost as if it didnt happen at all. He will talk about his former cocaine, et cetera, he talked about it in a very bland way but he almost got lynched by these people. Just a few of the recent threats, a Guy Named Tim Dever in december 2022, two individuals were indicted on 62 counts of threatening communications and one count of conspicyto kidnap. Just a note here, candidates running for house and Senate Offices increased Campaign Spending on security by more than 500 between the 2020 election and the 2022 midterms because of constant threats. Weve heard this from adam kinzinger, et cetera, people have told him, you cant go that way, think of your family. People might kill you. Thats the atmosphere in washington on the republican side. Where are the republicans who are willing to say, enough, are there any . Other than the ones who have left the party . The threat is very real and you have a mix of people who Behind Closed Doors are concerned about it but also not interested in living their lives in fear like many of the colleagues they saw when they did step forward, they saw the threats against their families and then you saw members of congress who were moderate republicans, who decided not to run again because they didnt want to deal with what was going to happen to their families and deal with the stress of it. In the context of everything weve been talking about in this conversation, let me be clear about the far right agenda. They claim to be sort of like embracing the Republican Values and everything but i want to remind people people that are more moderate like me who are trying to figure out how to navigate in this space, what they mean is if you are not in line with them, they are coming after you. So they are coming after the left but also their coming after most americans who are not going to go along with their extreme agenda who dont stand for it or agree with it. You will also be targets of that hate. That is why all of this matters, thats why we should continue to talk about it. Thats why mike pence should be talking about it because he is a living example of a longtime conservative that faced it directly. Under his eye. Thank you very much. Up next on the reidout, just when you thought it couldnt get worse, shocking new reporting reveals that trump put Americas Nuclear submarine fleet at risk by casually discussing classified information about its tactical abilities. Stay with us. With us or sharp, stabbing pains. This painful, blistering rash can disrupt your life for weeks. A pain so intense, you could miss out on family time. The virus that causes shingles is likely already inside of you. If youre 50 years or older, ask your doctor or pharmacist about shingles. Ever heard the Expression Loose Lips sinks it seems trump hasnt. New reporting gives us a look into are the handling of our National Secrets first reported by abc, it seems trump shared information about American Nuclear submarines and their capabilities with an australian Bullet Billionaire Member of maralago. Who share the information with scores of other people according to sours miliar. The businessman anthony pratt, reported scussed the submarines with trump in april of20, three months after trump left office. Sources told abc, quote, in emailand conversations after meeting with trump, pratt described trumps remarks to at least 45 others including six journalists, 11 of his companyemployees, 10 australian officials and three former austlian prime ministers. Meanwhile sources told the New York Times trumps loose lips may have endangered the u. S. Nuclear fleet. Trump revealed at least two pieces of critical information about the u. S. Submarines tactical capabilities according to the people familiar with the matter. Those included how many Nuclear Warheads the vessels carried and how close they could get to their russian counterparts without being detected. Abc and the New York Times point out the disclosure was investigated by special counsel jack smiths team in connection with the investigation. Tara, ladies first, there was a time when the basic republican brand was proNational Security and antiussr. It has flipped now, and donald trump is now showing off their Nuclear Secrets to his friend whos a member of maralago. Your thoughts on why theres so much silence from the former National Security party on this . Is outrageous, joy, the more we hear about how reckless trump has been with our National Secrets, the more infuriating it becomes that the Republican Party has allowed him to get away with this. This is the same party that grilled Hillary Clinton over phantom emails, for years and years and years, and we have proven that donald trump has spoken out of turn about National Security secrets more than once. Remember when he had the russians in the oval office and revealed information about israel . And jack smith has an entire case against him for his reckless handling of National Security secrets and documents. So thankfully, at least he was australian which is part of our five eyes intelligence, but this guy is a businessman not an intelligence officer, and this was after he left the presidency. So republicans are quiet about this because if they said anythi