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MSNBCW Alex July 3, 2024

Yesterday, the Israeli Defense forces or idf says theyre preparing for an expansion of confidence that will include an integrated and coordinated attack from the air, sea, and land, and quote. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visited some of the soldiers along the border yesterday, and was heard asking, quote, are you ready for the next stage . Forces are also now evacuating sderot, one of the israeli towns along the border that was attacked by hamas luck next week. Meanwhile, the humanitarian crisis is real isis another three hour safe passage to allow them to free to the south. Overwhelmed, civilians are running out of places to go. Rockets are continuing to hit parts of gaza, destroying buildings and turning some neighborhoods to nothing more than piles of rubble. The United States should the united s ta have been displaced in jut the past eight days. Now, one hospital in Southern Israel is already taking in 35,000 people, while continuing to treat patients injured by the ongoing attacks. Thats as of this morning, and at least people have been killed in gaza and at least 1300 have been killed in israel. Meanwhile, the efforts to get the u. S. Citizens out of gaza he appears to have hidden impasse. With egypt remains closed, as a tentative deal to allow americans to pass through hits significant obstacles. Joining us right now from israel is nbc news Foreign Correspondent joshua. Also with us, esther sullivan, editor and chief of the israeli News Organization from tel aviv. Welcome to you both. Lets go first with you josh. What is the latest regarding what we know about israels military movements along, the preparations for invading gaza, as well as the efforts to get people out of Northern Gaza . The focus right now is really on trying to get people from Northern Gaza into southern gaza. Israels military has been open about the fact that the ground incursion, given when it starts, is going to focus at least initially on their northern area, the populated area of gaza city. So israels military, again today, declaring a specific window, a threehour period where they said you can travel on these specific roads from gaza city and that area farther down south, and we will not hit those roads during that window, which expired about two hours ago. Now, its unclear how many people were actually able to make it during that period of time. The roads have been congested, all kinds of people trying to flee. The infrastructure is obviously a mess after so many israeli airstrikes over the past week or so. But in the meantime, the u. S. Government also trying to encourage americans who are on the gaza strip to get as far south as they can, sending out a message via the embassy to americans, saying that basically if you are in southern gaza, closer to that rafah border with egypt, you are more likely to be able to get out safely, if and when these delicate diplomatic negotiations with the egyptians to try to get people out through that crossing, which has basically been closed, are eventually successful. And as the u. S. Is trying to get americans out of gaza, this is also trying to create options for americans who are stuck here in israel and cant get flights out, to get out this country. So tomorrow morning theres going to be a ship leaving from right here in haifa. You see the port behind me, americans are being encouraged to show up right here at about eight a. M. For a ship that will leave here heading for about an 8 to 8hour jury i to find their own flights back to the United States. And as all of those tensions are continuing in Southern Israel, also a lot on israels northern border with lebanon, i was just out there and half an hour ago inside for the entirety of the israel border, a two and a Half Mile Zone where israel is saying the public needs to stay away. It is not safe, there have been continuing hezbollah attacks in that area throughout the day. Today, israel also restricting gps there as they call it an active combat zone. They are trying to do what they can to tamp out tensions and prevent a second front in this war with hezbollah and lebanon. Let me quickly ask you, that Border Crossing that is supposed to allow safe passage into egypt, just want to confirm. Is It Functioning . You say it is closed, has there been any damage to it . Any movement there that would suggest it would remain closed . Or is it a functioning Border Crossing . It depends who you ask. We do know that it has been struck with airstrikes in the last several days. The egyptians have said that its functional, that they can still use it. But the palestinian ambassador, whose presence at that Border Crossing, says nobodys getting out there. Its not functioning at all. So there have been differing versions of events about this. There have been an effort over the past several days to get americans and other civilians out through that Border Crossing. It was not successful. So the efforts continue, including discussions at the u. S. Government and the state are having with egyptians you get that border open, for humanitarian aid to get in. Okay, thank you for that. Lets move to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visited soldiers along the border yesterday, following his poorly received friday night speech. How was his visit received, and what has been the feeling towards him among the israeli population at this point . Good to be with you. His visit was greeted with some skepticism, which isnt surprising bearing in mind the majority of israelis, even though they are perhaps not entirely enthusiastic about expressing the full extent of their disillusionment with them, are extremely angry about how they say that he has brought israel into the situation. Not that hamas is not to blame for this horrific assault on israel, but the Prime Minister seems to have been fatally distracted by all sorts of other issues that he prioritized above the safety, the basic safety of israeli civilians. So yes, he visited some of the scenes of the hamas attack. He was there for a very short time, had some photos taken, and then went straight back home. Esther ali velshi here, netanyahu has formed a unity government with Opposition Lawmakers on the left, things that he has not been able to do in the last ten months or so. How is that working out . Whats the context with his release citizens right now, despite the fact that there has been endless criticism of netanyahu over the last ten months, and protests. Israelis, do they have faith in this new Coalition Government and the ability to execute this war and deal with hamas . One thing i would say, i dont think the leader of the Main Opposition Party could be described as a leftist. It is much more of a center right. But i think he is at least brought the word center in that description, which cannot be applied to any of netanyahus existing government. So yes, the idea behind inviting gantz into the government is to give more legitimacy to the government, which has had such a terrible disaster on its record now, in terms of its response, but also to give some kind of a broader based coalition, legitimacy and for israel taking extra, im curious. Weve certainly seen protests around the world for this last week. Both in support of israel as well as palestine. So what are your thoughts of the reaction around the world, and how that compares to that which is within israel . It well, what is happening within israel is still very much a state of shock. And enormous anger, and quite some fear about the fate of the hostages, the civilian and soldier hostages being held by hamas in gaza that were abducted from their border communities. This is a major public Civil Society campaign now, to bring them back. Obviously, there are many other events that it happened so quickly here. After the terrible events of last weekend, the constant rocket fire from gaza, theres the confrontation with hezbollah on the northern border, which is extremely worrying. And then there is this emerging humanitarian crisis with gaza as well. Now, most israelis dont really have the bandwidth to be spending too much time thinking about what this humanitarian crisis in gaza could mean. But obviously, the images that come out in the manner of social media and the news in general. A new picture overrides an older picture. So what is being seen of the forced evacuation of palestinians from Northern Gaza, of course its a very striking and upsetting image for the rest of the world. Whereas the images from hamass assault are also extremely upsetting as well. So you have this synchronization between the israelis and the rest of the world a sir, thank you for that. And Josh Lederman as well, thank you for your reporting. Well be back to you a little bit later in the show. Alex, the point esther makes, because you have these true sets of images coming out. Theyre both horrific. For his release, theyre still processing. Last saturday, one week ago, has not finished them yet and we continue to see more pictures and more hopes for their loved ones who are taken hostage. Meanwhile, were seeing these images out of gaza, it fills the mind. Its hard to think about anything else. Its really hard. Joining us now is National Security analyst clint watts. Clint, one of the things that esther just talked about is understanding what this thing is thats happening in gaza. The New York Times is reporting that an invasion of gaza will happen soon, with the goal of capturing gaza city, which is by far the largest part of gaza, and getting rid of hamass leadership. We do believe that israel has started some incursions. I dont know if its a full ground scale war, but the taking of gaza city is a remarkably, remarkably content complicated undertaking. Thats right. You really couldnt think of a worse environment to try and take from the outside, and any urban area, and we saw this if youre familiar with mariupol last year, in ukraine. If youre familiar with any of the bottles that are wrought in the major cities. Youre looking at really, really complex maneuvers. And they always say in an urban environment, your speed goes down about 90 in terms of your ability to advance in the city versus open ground. It could go on for a very long time, depending on what the objectives are. You can tell theyre doing the initial stages of siege warfare, theyve asked civilians to leave over the last 48 hours. You noted at the start, theres lots of drone noise, lots of jet fighters overnight. Thats likely the reconnaissance for what theyre trying to determine, which is where those hamas militant hotspots inside that they want to focus on. Separately, i wouldnt be surprised if through the last couple of days small patrols or you are the operations, reconnaissance are already moving in and around gaza, trying to get a handful on two things. Where hostages might be, that would be a separate operation. They would likely get those hostages out if they could, and then second, where should they look for how theyre trying to take this city over the next days, weeks, months, whatever it might be. The other part that i think is quite interesting and start is reports up and around the northern border. The big question is, will his blood get engaged . Its a very different fight than whats going on in gaza, so youll see lots of armor units, you have some artilleries, self propelled artillery images up there. Thats a very different battle up to the north, should it erupt. And so theyre probably positioning forces mostly around gaza, some also to the north. And then i would imagine the israelis would have a sizable, Quick Reaction from somewhere throat israel, ready to respond to whatever scenario might unfold over the next few weeks. You mentioned hezbollah, we were just talking to Josh Lederman about this. Hamass Activities Last Weekend were a surprise to most people. Most people do not think they had that kind of military capability. With hezbollah, which operates outside of Southern Lebanon and on the northern border of israel, they have absolute military capability. Theyve waged a War Against Israel in the past. They have five or seven times the number of rockets and missiles, and their missiles are real missiles, like guided missiles. So your point here, i just want to underscore that. If hezbollah gets involved in this war, theyve been warned away from doing so. But if they do, its an entirely different thing than what is released potentially fighting in gaza so thats exactly right. If you rewind, hezbollah was known as the ateam of terrorism. But really, that was almost an understatement. They operate many ways in which that is very dedicated as. Has the equipment, has the rockets, has the Capability Due to their support from iran. Its a different kind of organization that israel would be going against, and they did this in 2006. Israel was ultimately won that struggled in many ways in that fight. To the south, youre talking about hamas, which has shown increased capability, but its still that these are small unit fights, these are handmade or localized weaponry, it is not quite the same as what you would see if has what you square up against israel in the north. Clinton, im gonna ask you the burning question in terms of how did this happen. Because as you well know, there have been reports in recent days that both egypt and the United States have at least some intelligence regarding a possible hamas attack, that those governments actually shared with israel. Coordinated these reports. And that the sharing happened shortly before last weeks attack. So what do we know about what those intelligence reports included, and was there anything in them that was out of the ordinary, or alarming to indicate what was to come . Yeah, we dont have tons of information on what those intelligence reports were. Its also a little confusing inside israel why they were just caught off guard with this. So one thing was through the summer, israel had deployed a lot of forces to the west bank, due to protests and skirmishes that erupted there. I was there at the end of june, and thats where most of the focus was, which was in the west bank. When looking at hamas, to overriding factors make this logical from their perspective. One is the normalization of relations between israel and saudi arabia. That process and those negotiations have been underway, and put hamas in a very situation, just to understand. There are a sunni Military Group thats backed by iran. Hezbollah is a chia Military Group thats backed by iran. Those are two different entities, and so im hamas and its general support is going to be wave it should the normalization of the ties between those two countries come through. It is the 50th Anniversary of the yom kippur war, so its quite stunning that israel would be flatfooted. All Terrorist Groups are known to launch attacks quite often on anniversaries, or thats why we in New York City ramp up foreign after 9 11. Because were trying to watch if there might be something there. The one thing that is tough about Understanding Hamas activity is theres always a level of activity, but your signals and indicators are quite different. You might not see people coming up to the border because theyre at the border from the start. All right, thank you so much. You know what were going to do right after this break. Were going to be talking to somebody from the Israeli Government about this. Somebody whos in the opposition. I think clints point is really important to underscore, thats a lot of people conflate hamas and hezbollah. Hezbollah is made up of xis. Theyre both backed by iran, which is a shia countries. Hezbollah is a group of shia, theyre the most important, most powerful sunni country in the world. The idea that saudi arabia is pulling back from its negotiations from israel or its mobilization with israels geopolitically important. You know, im going to think a lot of people did learn the distinction. They did that in the iraq war, thats how that was understood. When we come back were going to be with somebody who shows the inner working of the Israeli Government firsthand. Well be speaking with zippy the former Israeli Foreign minister. Stick around, were watching msnbc. E watching msnbc. Msnbc. Hungry pets, itchy pets, scratchy pets, and most importantly, your pet. Every day great prices and 35 off your first authorship order. Right to your door. Download the chewy app. Just between us, you know whats better than mopping . Anything ugh. Well, i switched to swiffer wetjet, and its awesome. Its an allinone, that absorbs dirt and grime deep inside. And it helps prevent streaks and haze. Wetjet is so worth it. Love it, or your money back. 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